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       TR> Shariah Adoption Laws: Incompatible with American Law and        TR> Society               TR> Posted by Clare M. Lopez Jan 3rd 2011 at 6:05 am in Middle        TR> East, human rights, sharia               TR> | Comments (30)Yesterday's Washington Post's feature story,        TR> "Muslim orphans caught between Islam and the West;" about        TR> Muslim orphans who cannot find adoptive homes because of               ...               TR> The reason is shariah (Islamic law), which states in        TR> unequivocal terms, "Adoption is unlawful in Islam when it        TR> means giving a child one's own name; a share of one's        TR> estate division, and so on." [Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of        TR> the Traveller), Book K, "Trade," section k28.4 (pg. 450).]        ...               Islamonline.net has a fatwa online that explains the real cause        and the truth of Islamic adoption. You cannot deny the child's        parents. You can do all that is done in western adoption, except        that you must allow the child his ancestry and parentage. A        child can inherit from the family that raises him, that is        allowed. He will also inherit from his biological family if        provided for under law. That is automatic.               IOW, you could adopt a Muslim child, only you have to do it by        Islamic rules, which means he keeps his family history, and he        inherits from his biological family. You can then also leave him        an inheritance in your will. It would be the same as a permenant        guardianship in the West.               The estate division in the Reliance of the Traveler reference        applies to the automatic inheritance which then cuts him off        from his ancestry.               ...                      TR> See......if this were a Catholic law being talked about        TR> here, or a Mormon or Evangelical law, You'd be hopping from        TR> one foot to the other while typing curses at everyone in        TR> Fido you despise, blaming us for it.               The laws against Sharia in the US will rebound back to Catholic        and Protestant and Jewish laws. The constitution is clear, you        can't make laws banning the free exercise of religion. And you        can't favor one religion over another. So, to outlaw Sharia in        the US you will have to ban consideration of any religious law.               Jewish courts, that already exist in this country, will be        banned.               Hospitals run by pro-life faiths will have to perform abortions.               Adoption agencies run by faiths that won't place children with        gays will be forced to.               Or shut down.               TR> I expect you will remain completely uncaring about this.        TR> I saw a statement from some Islamic Imam in Egypt (I think)        TR> which said:               TR> "Don't blame Islam....blame terrorism."               TR> Who the fuck is he kidding? Islam *IS* terrorism!               Wahabism is terrorism. When you can say that you have something        to say.               ...               TR> offense deemed antithetical to Islam, orphaned children        TR> forbidden to be adopted into a home setting, and all        TR> government laws must strictly adhere to Islamic law.               Except that it's considered a blessing under Islam to take an        orphan into your home. The Quran specifically says it. The        Islamic community is responsible for seeing to it an orphan has        a home. The only rule the right wingers ignored is, the child's        ancestry, as known, must be kept. If his ancestry is not known        then he is considered of the brethern of the faith. IOW, a        Muslim whose ancestry is unknown. All the rest is the same.              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Command.com not found. Promote Lt.Cmdr.com? (Y/n)       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)    |
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