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|    BOB KLAHN to JOHN HULL    |
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|    29 Mar 11 05:35:20    |
       ...               JH> Second, based on what they posted here over the years,        JH> they've not had an original thought worth discussing. They        JH> have never done anything but spew what the Democrat party        JH> puts out as talking points.               ...               You couldn't answer this:               **************************************************************************               Between 1981 and 2009:               We have had 8 years of Reagan in which the Republicans had        control of the Senate for 6. We had 4 years of Bush 1, we had 8        years of Clinton in which the Republicans had control of        congress for 6, and we had 8 years of Bush, in which the        Republicans had control of congress for 6.               Since 1981, when Reagan took office:               From 1981 till 2009 the Republicans held the presidency for 20        of the 28 years.               The Republicans have the presidency and at least one house of        congress for 16 out of 28 years.               There have been only two years in which the Democrats controlled        the presidency and congress.               From 1995 to 2007 there have been only two years in which the        Republicans did not control both houses of congress. And those        two years they controlled one house. During those two years the        Senate was tied, so the Republican Vice President had the tie        breaking vote, which gave the Republicans control of the        Senate, and thereby the entire congress.               From 2001 till 2007 the Republicans controled the entire federal        government, Presidency, congress and the supreme court. For two        years the senate was evenly divided, but the Vice President        could cast the tie breaking vote.               From Jan 2007 to Jan 2009 the Democrats controled the House,        and the senate was tied 49-49, with two independents who        caucused with the dems, but are not otherwise bound by party        rules.               Since 1981 there has not been one single *DAY* in which the        Democrats have controlled the entire federal government.               From 1981 until 2009 there were only two years, out of 28, that        the Democrats could enact one single law without Republican        cooperation. (Pass in congress and sign.)               Between 2001 and 2007 there was not even one year the        Republicans could *NOT* enact any bill they wanted without one        single Democratic vote.               According to the Federal Budget History files, 2010: At the end        of WW2 the debt load was almost 122% of GDP. It went down under        every president, war and peace, recession or prosperity, liberal        or conservative, republican or democrat, until Reagan. When        Reagan took office it was around 33%.               Under Reagan it started back up, under Clinton it started back        down again. Under Bush II it went back into climb mode.               In 1981, 32.6%, in 1989, 53.1%, in 1993, 66.2%, in 2001 57.4%,        in 2009 90.4%.               So, Obama was handed an economy that was at risk of another        depression, and a debt load that is headed for crushing.               If the country went into depression the GDP could drop as much        as 50%. The debt would not drop, so the debt load would become        horrendous. 90% jumps to 180%. Higher than this country has ever        seen. If the GDP dropped 25% that still pushes up the debt load        to around 130%. That is a crushing debt. And that is why we        might well not be able to get out of another depression.               When Obama took office he was facing a national debt of about        $12 trill. That debt had built up in the 232 years before his        inauguration. Yet almost 80% of that debt had built up under 3        presidents, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II.               Around 10% under Clinton, though he spent his first term working        to control the debt, and his second to eliminate the deficit and        stop the growth of the debt.               All other presidents combined produced about 10% of the total        debt.               80% of the national debt Obama inherited produced under the last        three republican presidents. And 100% of the growth in the post        WWII debt load.               Obama inherited a rolling disaster, and the right is determined        to undermine anything he attempts to deal with it.        **************************************************************************              BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Who are the republicans who were targeted in the domestic terror attacks?       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)    |
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