...   
      
   BK>>  OH, now that I can see the point of. Though... if the reason for   
   BK>> the invasion of Iraq was to bring freedom to the Iraqis, the   
   BK>> current rational of the right, then why not bring freedom to the   
   BK>> people of Pakistan?   
      
    RW> Indeed!  IT takes trained troops, it takes willpower, it   
    RW> takes building of infrastructure, the things we're failing   
    RW> to do in Afghanistan.   
      
    Don't forget, nationbuilding is not good. Nationbuilding is bad.   
    Nationbuilding is the work of Satan. We know that because right   
    wingers tell us so.   
      
    Best to just let them live in anarchy and grow hard and bitter   
    and hate filled... what can they do, we are protected by oceans,   
    aren't we?   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> I'm still waiting to see that freedom for KUwait we fought   
    RW>> for ya know.  LEt's either do it right, or bring the young   
    RW>> men and women home.   
      
   BK>>  Yeah... we are patient, waitind for 20 years for that freedom  for   
   BK>> Kuwait. OTOH, some truth might make the waiting easier.  Wikileaks,   
   BK>> where are you when we need you?   
      
    RW> FUnny but nobody has anything to say about that.   
      
    After Kuwait I was thinking, the next president should vow that   
    no American soldier would be sent to fight, and put his life on   
    the line, and maybe die, unless it's for democracy for the   
    country they are fighting for.   
      
    The Emir of Kuwait would not have been allowed to return by my   
    rules.   
      
    RW>> IF nothing else there's always that big water control   
    RW>> project in INdia.  WE can defend it with troops and tell   
    RW>> the folks in ISlamabad that we'll shut off the tap unless   
    RW>> they stfu and do as they're told.  sO more innocent people   
    RW>> will die.  CAn't make an omelet and all those other nice   
      
   BK>>  Maybe just do some precision surgery of the Pakistan   
   BK>>  intelligence service.   
      
    RW> tHere's a thought.  ISI essentially operates with autonomy.   
      
    Exactly my thought.   
      
   BK>>  IF we are going to get serious about terrorism, the best place  to   
   BK>> start is Saudi Arabia. But you already know that.   
      
    RW> That's from whence the money flows.   
      
    Yep... you know. And the fanaticism. The word is not Islamic,   
    the word is not Jihadi, the word is Wahabi.   
      
    RW>> because that's the biggest danger right now.  so long as   
    RW>> the government in ISlambad permits the Qaedas to operate   
    RW>> freely they should be considered a rogue state, and treated   
    RW>> accordingly.   
      
   BK>>  More like a failed state. Or a failed state in the process of   
   BK>> failing.   
      
    RW> this is true, but they'll continue to fail unless something   
    RW> drastic is made to happen.  Had to pause while writing this   
    RW> msg for the xyl to read me an article from this morning's   
    RW> paper.  Seems the government over there is breaking up.   
    RW> THe more moderates are bailing out of parliament and the   
    RW> cabinet twould appear.   
      
    From what I have heard about that, the parties that are bailing   
    out are not planning to bring down the government. None of them   
    want to be responsible for bringing back the military rule.   
      
   BK>>  OTOH, we need to rein in India's nuke activities also. Damn so   
   BK>> much we need to do.   
      
    RW> Right, and the way to rein in INdia's nuclear ambition is   
    RW> to deal with the failed state which is their neighbor.   
      
    I suspect India would still want to be the dominant power so   
    they would keep the nukes. They all need to be under world   
    pressure.   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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