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   Message 179 of 415   
   BOB KLAHN to BOB ACKLEY   
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   26 Mar 11 21:16:56   
   
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    JH>> I have a problem because most of those who protest nuclear power don't   
    JH>> have a clue about how it works.  Then there's the people who are   
    JH>> using this Japanese problem to do their best to kill nuclear power   
    JH>> over here.  It isn't about anything but political power, and keeping   
    JH>> their bootheels on the necks of the average joes.   
      
    Have you been checked for paranoia recently? Is everyone who   
    disagrees with you trying to keep his bootheel on your neck?   
      
    BA> A lot of those protesting nuclear power also protest   
    BA> against ordinary coal-fired   
    BA> power plants.  IMO those people should be identified and   
    BA> then have their power shut off.   
      
    Of course you will never conceede they just might be right. Coal   
    power I do believe should be phased out. Nuclear power needs new   
    technology, and to be much safer and cleaner. Fortunately new   
    technology is available. What does need to be done is to find   
    out how many of those bad designs are in use and replace them.   
      
    BTW, if nuclear power is so safe, why does the nuclear industry   
    get a limit on their liability?   
      
    BA> While wind generators (supposedly) don't pollute one gets   
    BA> real tired of looking at   
    BA> them.   
      
    ...   
      
    Looking at them doesn't bother me, but a lot of the people who   
    live next to them complain about their noise vibration and   
    effects on light.   
      
    BA> Note that years ago a LOT of wind generators were built in   
    BA> the SF Bay area near the Altamont Pass (the old US-50 went   
    BA> through it on the way from Oakland to   
    BA> Stockton - and points east ).  Environmentalists are   
    BA> forcing the power companies to   
    BA> take them out - apparently a lot of birds were/are being   
    BA> killed by those generators.   
      
    A bit of googling shows they are not being shut down, but   
    replaced by newer and more efficent generators. The new ones   
    produce 10 times as much power as the old ones, with a much   
    smaller bird kill and count. The birds are not just crows and   
    pidgeons, but hawks and golden eagles. Most people would support   
    protecting them. The new generators do have lower bird kills.   
      
    One reason for the lower bird kills is that the new generators   
    sit several times above the height of the old ones. The raptors   
    hunt low to the ground.   
      
    And they turn slower so they are less noisey and easier for   
    birds to avoid.   
      
    BA> Again, those protestors should be unplugged.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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