SB>>>> Oh, I agree, it started getting bad back when Clinton was President   
    SB>>>> and has been going downhill ever since then. I think Clinton did   
    SB>> a lo   
    SB>>>> of damage to our military back then, and I think Ohbama picked   
    SB>> right   
    SB>>>> up where he left of on destroying our military.   
      
    Funny, the list of democratic presidents who cut military   
    spending adds up to none.   
      
    However, GHW Bush did cut military spending. The end result was   
    Clinton inherited a military that had been cut. And a huge   
    national debt he had to work around to get it to a balanced   
    budget.   
      
    Which balanced budget I do not suggest was a good thing.   
      
    ...   
      
    SD>>> (orderly room)...you know that something like 55% of soldiers with   
    SB>> familie   
    SD>>> are on food stamps? Why in God's name is that?   
      
    Maybe because the same mentality that thinks a middle class   
    worker is overpaid thinks the military aren't worth much either.   
      
    SB>> Oh, I know about the food stamps, my wife and I were dirt poor while I   
    SB>> was in   
    SB>> the Navy. I was lucky to be stationed in SC where the cost of living was   
    SB>> a lot   
    SB>> lower and my wife was able to get WIC when she was pregnant, and we   
    SB>> qualified   
    SB>> for food stamps. I was a E5 at the time and got sub pay and sea pay. Most   
    SB>> people thought that we got a ton of money for being on subs, but it was   
    SB>> less   
    SB>> than 200 dollars a month back then. I think I was getting 190 a month   
    SB>> for sub   
    SB>> pay, but that was after 6 years of service. For a E1 it was 75 dollars a   
    SB>> month, and I don't think that has changed since then.   
      
    JH> There is an old saying in the Marine Corps that if the   
    JH> Corps had wanted you to have a wife, it would've issued you   
    JH> one.   
      
    They said that in every branch of the service. I know they say   
    it in the Air Force and the Army.   
      
    JH> People forget that the military is not set up for wives.   
      
    People forget that the military today is all volunteer and   
    depends on more long term servers. That and people desperate for   
    a job often to support a family.   
      
    JH> Used to be that you had to get permission from your   
    JH> commanding officer to get married.  Of course, a lot of   
    JH> guys today get married before they enlist, or enlist   
    JH> because they've knocked up the girlfriend and have no job,   
    JH> so they join the military to get training in something.   
      
    Yep. Desperate.   
      
    JH> Most wives during World War II and before, went to live   
    JH> with relatives or in-laws while the man was off at war or   
    JH> on overseas duty.  Things might be a lot less problem for   
    JH> military enlisted if they waited to get married until they   
    JH> got out.   
      
    Yeah... one more strike against military service.   
      
      
      
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