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   BOB KLAHN to ALL   
   How to bring down Obamacare.   
   26 Feb 11 23:50:00   
   
    I have mentioned before that I oppose the mandate. Not because I   
    think there is something inherently wrong in it, but because I   
    don't see how they are going to come up with an insurance policy   
    all the uninsured can afford.   
      
    Ok, they say they will subsidize the poor... but...   
      
    You right wingers have rejoiced at every attempt to bring down   
    Obamacare by finding the mandate unconstitutional. Big mistake.   
    If you want to bring down Obamacare, demand that the mandate   
    stay in there.   
      
    I was just looking at median income stats for another purpose,   
    when I realized how they apply to insurance. Nearly half the   
    working single mothers in this country earned less than $30K/yr   
    as of 2008. How much can a single mother spare to pay for   
    insurance with an income of less than $30K/yr. I will say,   
    typically, nothing at all.   
      
    Half the working single mothers in this country will have to   
    receive 100% subsidized medical insurance for the mandate to   
    work.   
      
    Probably much more, since even above $30K/yr you have quite a   
    ways to go before they can afford any significant amount.   
      
    If you remove the mandate Obamacare will still go into effect.   
    It will be more expensive without the mandate, but still better   
    than nothing. Over the years, I predict a very few years, they   
    will work it out, and bring back the mandate in one form or   
    another, and find a way to make it work. You will be stuck with   
    Obamacare as designed, but improved, and it will work and be so   
    popular you will never get rid of it.   
      
    If you leave the mandate in, it will go into effect in 2014,   
    onlyh they will have to confront the low income problem head on.   
    I don't believe anyone in congress has any idea how bad things   
    are for single mothers in this country, but they will learn in a   
    hurry.   
      
    So, they will have to either find some miracle fix, or back off.   
      
    As I see it, that is the only real hope you have to stop   
    Obamacare. Your fixation on the courts is a fantasy, a loser   
    fantasy.   
      
    Why do I offer this solution? I said before, I oppose the   
    mandate because so many can't afford it, can't pay the bills no   
    matter how you work it.   
      
    So, I want them to confront the reality of low income health   
    care right up front. Have it out, and I believe they can make it   
    work.   
      
    In this case, we both get our chance. If they can't make it   
    work, you get rid of Obamacare. If they can make it work, we get   
    national health care that works. The real thing.   
      
    One will turn out to be right, but this is the only way I see to   
    force the issue, and find out which will work right from the   
    beginning.   
      
    Maybe they will have to really consider a plan based on the   
    existing national health care systems, most of which are based   
    on private insurance company. Remember, even the Swiss system,   
    the most expensive national health care system in the   
    industrialized world at 12% of GDP, compared to the US system   
    at 20% of GDP projected soon, will save this country $1 trillion   
    a year.   
      
    That's enough to solve most of our economic problems with ease.   
      
      
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
   ... Don't tell me you are pro-life if you don't support health care for all.   
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