BK>>  Of course we won't. That would take facing down the republicans.   
   BK>> The administration would defend their failure to do that as   
   BK>> "picking our battles." This is the battle they should chose to   
   BK>> fight.   
      
    RW> Right, but I don't see us moving to even support those   
    RW> movements.  FIrst, even if we would find intervention   
    RW> desirable we're already spread too thin militarily, so   
    RW> we'll have to just watch and see what happens.   
      
    That is why I say pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan as soon as   
    possible. Note, not as soon as convenient.   
      
    ...   
      
   BK>>  I hold that the only right to exist Israel has is the same as  any   
   BK>> other nation, the fact that they do exist. That does not  imply a   
   BK>> requirement on our part that we support every extreme  thing they   
   BK>> do.   
      
    RW> That's essentially my position.  tHey exist, that's a fact   
    RW> of life, but that doesn't mean we should prop them up.   
      
    It does put us in a position to demand they be reasonable.   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> I'm supposed to buy into the assertion this is a fraud made   
    RW>> by the same scamsters who ripped off the American taxpayer   
    RW>> to the tune of millions for this tarp horse hockey.  > I'm gonna rush right out and do that.>   
      
   BK>>  You do realize that was the ironic form of speech, don't you?   
      
    RW> Knew that .  Still these anti science barbarians get   
    RW> about as much respect from me as do the Qaedas.   
    RW> Imho they're dangerous to the survival of the human race.   
      
    More dangerous. There is no Islamic terror group or association   
    of groups that threatens the survival of this country. The   
    anti-science clique threatens a lot of damage to this country,   
    and the world.   
      
    ...   
      
   BK>>>  I agree. As I said, mix government and religion and it's bad for   
   BK>>> both.   
      
    RW>> OF course it is, but we still have plenty of that mixture,   
    RW>> and the religionists want more.   
      
    We need a president strong enough to stand up to them, and   
    secure enough in his beliefs to stand up for them.   
      
   BK>>  Obama should abolish the Office of Faith Based Initiatives.   
   BK>> Straight out abolish it as unconstitutional.   
      
    RW> I've thought that should be declared unconstitutional from   
    RW> the get-go.   
      
    Exactly.   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> But then we'd be severely punishing our own, and punishing   
    RW>> the biggest ISrael boosters from their NEw York City board   
    RW>> rooms.   
      
   BK>>  I feel so sad for them. (Stopping to wipe a tear from the corner   
   BK>> of my eye.)   
      
    RW> ME too .   
      
   BK>>>  Just today reading the reason Al Qaeda has been totally silent  on   
   BK>>> Egypt, it's a denial of everything Al Qaeda stands for. Seems  Al   
   BK>>> Qaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB renounced   
   BK>>>  violence, and this revolution was pulled off peacefully. Al  Qaeda   
   BK>>> stands for violent revolution, and this shows them up  badly.   
      
    RW>> COol!   
      
    RW> If stable truly representative governments do happen to   
    RW> spring up the Qaedas have lost their best recruiting tool.   
    RW> They know this.  tHIs is the biggest reason we should aid   
    RW> and abet those movements.   
      
    BINGO!   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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