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    RW>> Then I stated that with the TAliban and Al Qaeda getting   
    RW>> tacit support from the Pakistani government I saw no reason   
    RW>> that we should put one dime's worth of aid in their hands,   
    RW>> and would still say the same.   
      
   BK>>  Yet, the plan should be to undermine the Taliban and the   
   BK>>  Pakistani govt. An awful lot of Pakistanis don't like the   
   BK>>  Taliban, or Al Qaeda, or their govt. We need to make use of  those   
   BK>> facts.   
      
    RW> INdeed, but as long as we speak with forked tongue on the   
    RW> issue I'm not for putting one dime's worth of food aid or   
    RW> any other type of aid in their hands.  tHose aid workers   
    RW> should be backed up with well armed well trained troops,   
    RW> and they should let them know in ISlamabad that an attack   
    RW> on aid workers has immediate consequences for senior   
    RW> government officials.   
      
    OH, now that I can see the point of. Though... if the reason for   
    the invasion of Iraq was to bring freedom to the Iraqis, the   
    current rational of the right, then why not bring freedom to the   
    people of Pakistan?   
      
    RW>> I applaud the U.N. relief agencies' decision.   
    RW>> I truly believe that the U.N. relief workers should be   
    RW>> evacuated post haste, and all the food stocks and other   
    RW>> materials which cannot be taken out with them should be   
    RW>> destroyed.   
      
   BK>>  Uhh... innocent people will die. Remember, Al Qaeda kills more   
   BK>> Muslims than non-Muslims. And every time they attack they make  more   
   BK>> enemies. I do believe a lot of Pakistanis died in that  attack,   
   BK>> didn't they?   
      
    RW> INdeed, but the messages are too mixed.  that government is   
    RW> no friend of ours, and no real friend of the international   
    RW> community.  sO, innocent people will die.  I'm truly sorry   
    RW> about that, but we can't help them unless we're willing to   
    RW> kick some posterior now and worry about taking names later,   
    RW> and that includes the Pakistani government.   
      
    Oh, you already said that.   
      
   BK>>  Remember, when the USSR pulled out of Afghanistan they didn't   
   BK>> settle back and rest, they expanded.   
      
    RW> And they will continue to do just that until we get the   
    RW> gumption to do it right.  But then I don't expect we will.   
    RW> I'm still waiting to see that freedom for KUwait we fought   
    RW> for ya know.  LEt's either do it right, or bring the young   
    RW> men and women home.   
      
    Yeah... we are patient, waitind for 20 years for that freedom   
    for Kuwait. OTOH, some truth might make the waiting easier.   
    Wikileaks, where are you when we need you?   
      
    RW> IF nothing else there's always that big water control   
    RW> project in INdia.  WE can defend it with troops and tell   
    RW> the folks in ISlamabad that we'll shut off the tap unless   
    RW> they stfu and do as they're told.  sO more innocent people   
    RW> will die.  CAn't make an omelet and all those other nice   
      
    Maybe just do some precision surgery of the Pakistan   
    intelligence service.   
      
    RW> cliches. IT's time to get serious about the radical   
    RW> fundamentalism problem, and that's a good place to start,   
      
    IF we are going to get serious about terrorism, the best place   
    to start is Saudi Arabia. But you already know that.   
      
    RW> because that's the biggest danger right now.  so long as   
    RW> the government in ISlambad permits the Qaedas to operate   
    RW> freely they should be considered a rogue state, and treated   
    RW> accordingly.   
      
    More like a failed state. Or a failed state in the process of   
    failing.   
      
    OTOH, we need to rein in India's nuke activities also. Damn so   
    much we need to do.   
      
      
      
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