BK>>  Well... yeah. And we should pull the 5th fleet out of Bahrain.   
   BK>> They have the same sort of protests, and are killing the   
   BK>>  protestors. We don't need to be getting tied to that.   
      
    RW> INdeed we should, but probably won't.   
      
    Of course we won't. That would take facing down the republicans.   
    The administration would defend their failure to do that as   
    "picking our battles." This is the battle they should chose to   
    fight.   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> MIght be, but still imho appeared to be another despotic   
    RW>> state, iow a theocracy.   
      
   BK>>  So is Israel, but that doesn't stop us from supporting them.  Iran   
   BK>> was on the way to democracy. Who knows how much of the  detour is   
   BK>> due to Bush trashing them.   
      
    RW> WHO can tell, but as for ISrael, I haven't been an ISrael   
    RW> supporter for a long time.   
      
    I hold that the only right to exist Israel has is the same as   
    any other nation, the fact that they do exist. That does not   
    imply a requirement on our part that we support every extreme   
    thing they do.   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> wHole region is still a powderkeg, and likely to get worse   
    RW>> as climate conditions change.   
      
   BK>>  Yeah, but climate change is a fraud don't you know. Ask the   
   BK>> Australians swimming in their streets, or the Chinese enjoying   
   BK>> their extended dry spell, or the African nations now getting  ready   
   BK>> to fight over the Nile water.   
      
    RW> I'm supposed to buy into the assertion this is a fraud made   
    RW> by the same scamsters who ripped off the American taxpayer   
    RW> to the tune of millions for this tarp horse hockey.   I'm gonna rush right out and do that.>   
      
    You do realize that was the ironic form of speech, don't you?   
      
    ...   
      
    RW>> Agreed, to a point.  Local self determination is always   
    RW>> preferrable, but i have the same objections to a   
    RW>> "christian" theocracy, or any other theocracy for that   
    RW>> matter.    
      
   BK>>  I agree. As I said, mix government and religion and it's bad for   
   BK>> both.   
      
    RW> OF course it is, but we still have plenty of that mixture,   
    RW> and the religionists want more.   
      
    Obama should abolish the Office of Faith Based Initiatives.   
    Straight out abolish it as unconstitutional.   
      
    ...   
      
   BK>>  Need to also declare any corporate involvement in suppressing   
   BK>> human rights won't be tolerated, and we don't care what country   
   BK>> that corporation is from.   
      
    RW> But then we'd be severely punishing our own, and punishing   
    RW> the biggest ISrael boosters from their NEw York City board   
    RW> rooms.   
      
    I feel so sad for them. (Stopping to wipe a tear from the corner   
    of my eye.)   
      
    ...   
      
   BK>>  Just today reading the reason Al Qaeda has been totally silent  on   
   BK>> Egypt, it's a denial of everything Al Qaeda stands for. Seems  Al   
   BK>> Qaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB renounced   
   BK>>  violence, and this revolution was pulled off peacefully. Al  Qaeda   
   BK>> stands for violent revolution, and this shows them up  badly.   
      
    RW> COol!   
      
    ...   
      
   BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn   
      
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