HI Bob,   
      
   On Sat 2039-Jan-01 23:28, BOB KLAHN (1:123/140) wrote to RICHARD WEBB:   
      
      
      
    RW> Readers of other FIdonet echoes of this type will recall a   
    RW> heated debate over disaster aid and preparedness in another   
    RW> echo I was involved in.  A person essentially on the other   
    RW> side of many of the issues asked why no concern over the   
    RW> flooding and natural disasters in Pakistan.   
      
    RW> Then I stated that with the TAliban and Al Qaeda getting   
    RW> tacit support from the Pakistani government I saw no reason   
    RW> that we should put one dime's worth of aid in their hands,   
    RW> and would still say the same.   
      
   BK>  Yet, the plan should be to undermine the Taliban and the   
   BK>  Pakistani govt. An awful lot of Pakistanis don't like the   
   BK>  Taliban, or Al Qaeda, or their govt. We need to make use of  those   
   BK> facts.   
      
   INdeed, but as long as we speak with forked tongue on the   
   issue I'm not for putting one dime's worth of food aid or   
   any other type of aid in their hands.  tHose aid workers   
   should be backed up with well armed well trained troops, and they should let   
   them know in ISlamabad that an attack on aid workers has immediate   
   consequences for senior government   
   officials.   
      
    RW> I applaud the U.N. relief agencies' decision.   
    RW> I truly believe that the U.N. relief workers should be   
    RW> evacuated post haste, and all the food stocks and other   
    RW> materials which cannot be taken out with them should be   
    RW> destroyed.   
      
   BK>  Uhh... innocent people will die. Remember, Al Qaeda kills more    
   BK> Muslims than non-Muslims. And every time they attack they make  more   
   BK> enemies. I do believe a lot of Pakistanis died in that  attack,   
   BK> didn't they?   
      
   INdeed, but the messages are too mixed.  that government is   
   no friend of ours, and no real friend of the international   
   community.  sO, innocent people will die.  I'm truly sorry   
   about that, but we can't help them unless we're willing to   
   kick some posterior now and worry about taking names later,   
   and that includes the Pakistani government.   
      
   BK>  Remember, when the USSR pulled out of Afghanistan they didn't    
   BK> settle back and rest, they expanded.   
      
   And they will continue to do just that until we get the   
   gumption to do it right.  But then I don't expect we will.   
   I'm still waiting to see that freedom for KUwait we fought   
   for ya know.  LEt's either do it right, or bring the young   
   men and women home.   
      
   IF nothing else there's always that big water control   
   project in INdia.  WE can defend it with troops and tell the folks in   
   ISlamabad that we'll shut off the tap unless they   
   stfu and do as they're told.  sO more innocent people will   
   die.  CAn't make an omelet and all those other nice cliches. IT's time to get   
   serious about the radical fundamentalism   
   problem, and that's a good place to start, because that's   
   the biggest danger right now.  so long as the government in   
   ISlambad permits the Qaedas to operate freely they should be considered a   
   rogue state, and treated accordingly.   
      
   BK> ... If Jesus was Jewish, why did they give him a Mexican name? ---   
      
      
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
   --- timEd 1.10.y2k+   
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