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   Mike Powell to All   
   OpenAI calls on US govern   
   14 Mar 25 09:49:00   
   
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    [While I cannot disagree with some of their logic, I must wonder if OpenAI   
   is just trying to eliminate some competition.  -- Mike]   
      
   OpenAI calls on US government to ban DeepSeek, calling it state-subsidized    
   and state-controlled   
      
   Date:   
   Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:39:59 +0000   
      
   Description:   
   OpenAI calls on US government to ban the use of DeepSeek in critical areas.   
      
   FULL STORY   
   ======================================================================   
    - OpenAI has proposed banning DeepSeek in critical areas   
    - Calls DeepSeek "state-subsidized" and "state-controlled"   
    - OpenAI would like to see the removal of "overly burdensome state laws"   
      
   OpenAI has sent a proposal to the Office of Science and Technology Policy    
   that calls on the US government to ban the use of DeepSeek in governments,   
   military, and intelligence services. Mentioning the Chinese AI by name, the   
   proposal calls DeepSeek state-subsidized and state-controlled.    
      
   The letter, available on its website and signed by Chris Lehane, the Vice   
   President of, Global Affairs at OpenAI, also proposes banning the use of   
   PRC-produced equipment (e.g., Huawei Ascend chips) and models that violate   
   user privacy and create security risks such as the risk of IP theft among    
   what it called Tier 1 countries.    
      
   The letter says As Americas world-leading AI sector approaches artificial   
   general intelligence (AGI), with a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) determined    
   to overtake us by 2030, the Trump Administrations new AI Action Plan can   
   ensure that American-led AI built on democratic principles continues to   
   prevail over CCP-built autocratic, authoritarian AI.   
      
   Identity crisis    
      
   DeepSeek recently caused a shockwave in the AI industry by providing similar   
   results to the ChatGPT o1 reasoning model with its DeepSeek-R1 model, but at    
   a much lower price for developers and free for web browser use. Stock prices   
   for companies heavily invested in AI saw an immediate drop , although the   
   market has since returned to previous levels.    
      
   Many have questioned whether DeekSeek's rapid progress was truly down to an   
   innovative new training methodology or whether it had distilled some training   
   data from OpenAI against its terms and conditions. In fact, as we noticed on   
   TechRadar, DeepSeek would sometimes mistake itself for ChatGPT when asked who   
   it was.   
      
   The race for AGI    
      
   The letter from OpenAI states:    
      
   As with Huawei, there is significant risk in building on top of DeepSeek   
   models in critical infrastructure and other high-risk use cases given the   
   potential that DeepSeek could be compelled by the CCP to manipulate its    
   models to cause harm.    
      
   There is no direct evidence to suggest that DeepSeek, which is owned and   
   controlled by the Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer, is controlled by the Chinese   
   government, however it's been noted that you cannot get the DeepSeek-R1   
   chatbot to answer questions about political topics sensitive to the PRC like   
   the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.    
      
   OpenAI clearly sees humanity as being on the doorstep to artificial general   
   intelligence (AGI) , which describes systems that possess human-like general   
   intelligence. AGI is something that OpenAI has been working towards since its   
   creation as a company, and the proposal also attacks the overly burdensome   
   state laws that are holding it back.    
      
   As our CEO Sam Altman has written, we are at the doorstep of the next leap in   
   prosperity: the Intelligence Age. But we must ensure that people have freedom   
   of intelligence, by which we mean the freedom to access and benefit from AGI,   
   protected from both autocratic powers that would take peoples freedoms away,   
   and layers of laws and bureaucracy that would prevent our realizing them.   
      
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   Link to news story:   
   https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/openai-calls-on-us   
   -government-to-ban-deepseek-calling-it-state-subsidized-and-state-controlled   
      
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