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|    OpenAI calls on US govern    |
|    14 Mar 25 09:49:00    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 458.consprcy@1:2320/105 2c3979f4       PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 202 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 2024 23:04 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1        [While I cannot disagree with some of their logic, I must wonder if OpenAI       is just trying to eliminate some competition. -- Mike]              OpenAI calls on US government to ban DeepSeek, calling it state-subsidized        and state-controlled              Date:       Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:39:59 +0000              Description:       OpenAI calls on US government to ban the use of DeepSeek in critical areas.              FULL STORY       ======================================================================        - OpenAI has proposed banning DeepSeek in critical areas        - Calls DeepSeek "state-subsidized" and "state-controlled"        - OpenAI would like to see the removal of "overly burdensome state laws"              OpenAI has sent a proposal to the Office of Science and Technology Policy        that calls on the US government to ban the use of DeepSeek in governments,       military, and intelligence services. Mentioning the Chinese AI by name, the       proposal calls DeepSeek state-subsidized and state-controlled.               The letter, available on its website and signed by Chris Lehane, the Vice       President of, Global Affairs at OpenAI, also proposes banning the use of       PRC-produced equipment (e.g., Huawei Ascend chips) and models that violate       user privacy and create security risks such as the risk of IP theft among        what it called Tier 1 countries.               The letter says As Americas world-leading AI sector approaches artificial       general intelligence (AGI), with a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) determined        to overtake us by 2030, the Trump Administrations new AI Action Plan can       ensure that American-led AI built on democratic principles continues to       prevail over CCP-built autocratic, authoritarian AI.              Identity crisis               DeepSeek recently caused a shockwave in the AI industry by providing similar       results to the ChatGPT o1 reasoning model with its DeepSeek-R1 model, but at        a much lower price for developers and free for web browser use. Stock prices       for companies heavily invested in AI saw an immediate drop , although the       market has since returned to previous levels.               Many have questioned whether DeekSeek's rapid progress was truly down to an       innovative new training methodology or whether it had distilled some training       data from OpenAI against its terms and conditions. In fact, as we noticed on       TechRadar, DeepSeek would sometimes mistake itself for ChatGPT when asked who       it was.              The race for AGI               The letter from OpenAI states:               As with Huawei, there is significant risk in building on top of DeepSeek       models in critical infrastructure and other high-risk use cases given the       potential that DeepSeek could be compelled by the CCP to manipulate its        models to cause harm.               There is no direct evidence to suggest that DeepSeek, which is owned and       controlled by the Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer, is controlled by the Chinese       government, however it's been noted that you cannot get the DeepSeek-R1       chatbot to answer questions about political topics sensitive to the PRC like       the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.               OpenAI clearly sees humanity as being on the doorstep to artificial general       intelligence (AGI) , which describes systems that possess human-like general       intelligence. AGI is something that OpenAI has been working towards since its       creation as a company, and the proposal also attacks the overly burdensome       state laws that are holding it back.               As our CEO Sam Altman has written, we are at the doorstep of the next leap in       prosperity: the Intelligence Age. But we must ensure that people have freedom       of intelligence, by which we mean the freedom to access and benefit from AGI,       protected from both autocratic powers that would take peoples freedoms away,       and layers of laws and bureaucracy that would prevent our realizing them.              ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/openai-calls-on-us       -government-to-ban-deepseek-calling-it-state-subsidized-and-state-controlled              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/305 153/7715 154/110 218/700 226/30       SEEN-BY: 227/114 229/110 111 114 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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