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   RM> It seems some things like that are more an excuse than a reason. I can   
   RM> see the USA complaining about illegal immigrants coming in from, or   
   RM> through, Mexico, but there's a LOT more of it there than through Canada,   
   RM> and things like drugs, I'd be willing to bet more drugs are moving from   
   RM> the USA into Canada than in the other direction. Both things are bad of   
   RM> course but that should have made a good case for having a united service   
   RM> working together policing the border rather than putting tariffs on   
   RM> everything we sell the USA.   
      
   AT>I'm with you on that. Law enforcement from both sides should work together,   
   b   
     >we need the 2 administrations to work together.   
      
   AT>One of the obstacles is that Canada's ruling party (The Liberal Party) is on   
     >ission to import all of India's undesirables into Canada. While they're   
   worki   
     >on that, there's no way that they can be in cooperation with the USA's   
   border   
     >trol. That's like trying to mop floors while you're wearing muddy boots.   
      
   We have cut way back on that already but, and this is important, the reason   
   we are cutting back is because of housing problems, which means that they   
   are mostly staying in Canada, not crossing the border.   
      
   There are what sound like a lot, almost 200,000 were stopped at the border   
   which doesn't necessarily mean they would have stayed in the USA, just   
   that they were travelling there.. That said, they figure there are   
   something around 5 Million illegal Mexicans living in the USA so I   
   think there's a bigger problem from that end of the country.   
      
   Plus that's only Mexicans. There are another 6 million illegals from   
   other countries there as well.   
      
   RM> I'm not sure who would be best in Canada.. A new Liberal leader was   
   RM> voted in to replace Trudeau and the news that Trudeau was resigning   
   RM> had already reduced Poilievre's lead in the polls from 20% to 1%,   
      
   AT>The ratio of those numbers sounds very extreme. What about people you know?   
   H   
     > you heard other Canadians expressing confidence in Carney? Statisticians   
   are   
     >rdly ever correct when they "conduct" similar polls here.   
      
   As I said, that huge drop was before they even chose anyone to replace   
   Trudeau, had only announced that he was leaving the party.   
      
   Since Carney is an ex Major banker it's hard to say what he will do   
   for/to the country. Bankers are generally very Right leaning so,   
   even if he's not as bad as most of them would be, he will almost   
   certainly be a lot more that way than Trudeau was.   
      
   The few people I talk to mostly don't like Poilievre but, until recently,   
   they only had Trudeau as the main alternative. But now there's another,   
   or rather a NEW option, so those numbers are 'possible', but you never   
   really know until an election, and they say we may have one VERY soon,   
   even though they could put it off until October 20th.   
      
   That said, where I live most people are rural and they virtually always   
   elect the Conservative who is running, good or bad, and it's hard to   
   have much affect on that.   
      
   We recently had an election for the Provincial Premier (think Governor)   
   and the Conservatives got about 11 times as many votes as the Liberals   
   in this area.   
      
   Actually the Green Party (environmental based) came in a close second   
   in that election which showed both how much the people were fed up   
   with Trudeau but they were also looking for Anyone to vote for that   
   wasn't Pierre Poilievre.   
      
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    * SLMR Rob  * Oh... sorry... was I starting to make sense again?   
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