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|    Rob Mccart to AARON THOMAS    |
|    Re: I watched the 'talk'    |
|    12 Mar 25 01:53:00    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 432.consprcy@1:2320/105 2c36b345       REPLY: 1:342/200 264d0f8b       PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 202 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 2024 23:04 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       RM> I think if there were a huge savings drilling your own oil the companies       RM> would have gone back to doing that long ago. It's smart to not use up all       RM> your own reserves if you can manage it though. Once it runs out elsewhere       RM> you have your own available to use and to sell at inflated prices due to       RM> the shortages. But I'm not sure you have as much oil as you wish you did.              AT>That does sound smart when considering the fact that the world has a limited        > supply. However, even if Canada gave us an excellent price, uninterrupted,       I        >afraid of what can happen to the price when (for example) the USA starts       comp        >ning about a lack of border enforcement.              It seems some things like that are more an excuse than a reason. I can       see the USA complaining about illegal immigrants coming in from, or       through, Mexico, but there's a LOT more of it there than through Canada,       and things like drugs, I'd be willing to bet more drugs are moving from       the USA into Canada than in the other direction. Both things are bad of       course but that should have made a good case for having a united service       working together policing the border rather than putting tariffs on       everything we sell the USA.              RM> When Trump was making election speeches I don't recall him mentioning       RM> 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian Imports.              AT>He wasn't that specific, but I found (for example and article from PBS from       S        >27, 2024 (well before Election Day) that quotes him like this:              AT>"Former President Donald Trump has proposed a 60% tariff on goods from China        > a 20% tariff on everything else the United States imports."              Some of it was expected, like Canada put a 100% tariff on cheap electric       cars coming in from China. We are fighting new tariffs from China now       as a result of that but, in that case, it was a specific item that was       going to be a big problem.              And countries like China are always a problem. If sales start to drop       off, they keep the factories making goods and then their government       subsidizes them so that they can sell stuff in foreign countries far       cheaper than they can be made there, even ignoring what workers are paid.       It saves them paying to support people not working, which avoids creating       a 'class' of people who get used to living off of the government dollar       without having to work, which can happen and can actually become       generational where families haven't really had a job in generations.              AT>I'm confident that Pierre Poilievre will be able to help us resolve        >these issues.              I'm not sure who would be best in Canada.. A new Liberal leader was       voted in to replace Trudeau and the news that Trudeau was resigning       had already reduced Poilievre's lead in the polls from 20% to 1%,       and that was before the new Liberal leader Mark Carney was chosen       with 86% of the vote and financial backing that was 10 times what       the other potential candidates were getting, so he is super popular       and that may gain the Liberals even more ground.              That said though, Carney has never been elected to a post in his       life. He's not a politician, he is a Banker on a huge scale and       I fear that if he is let loose in charge of the country he will       do marvelous things to make the country successful, but cut support       to care for the poor and older people because that's too expensive       to be 'pracitcal'. Bottom Line above all else? Maybe..              RM> No, I think too many people on both sides of the border are mad about       RM> this and I can't see what he's doing being good for ordinary people,       RM> although your super rich probably love him..              AT>I can't speak for the super rich, but I have yet to hear any Trump       supporters        >scinding their endorsement of President Trump. I like Canada, and I have a       fe        >riends from Ontario, but I love President Trump. I literally pray for him       eve        >single day.              We'll all have to see what happens and then take another look to see       how we feel about it a year or two from now.       ---        * SLMR Rob * Got into the gene pool when the lifeguard wasn't watching        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/305 153/7715 154/110 218/700 226/30       SEEN-BY: 227/114 229/110 111 114 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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