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   Message 717 of 2,445   
   Rob Mccart to AARON THOMAS   
   Re: I watched the 'talk'   
   12 Mar 25 01:53:00   
   
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   RM> I think if there were a huge savings drilling your own oil the companies   
   RM> would have gone back to doing that long ago. It's smart to not use up all   
   RM> your own reserves if you can manage it though. Once it runs out elsewhere   
   RM> you have your own available to use and to sell at inflated prices due to   
   RM> the shortages. But I'm not sure you have as much oil as you wish you did.   
      
   AT>That does sound smart when considering the fact that the world has a limited   
     > supply. However, even if Canada gave us an excellent price, uninterrupted,   
   I   
     >afraid of what can happen to the price when (for example) the USA starts   
   comp   
     >ning about a lack of border enforcement.   
      
   It seems some things like that are more an excuse than a reason. I can   
   see the USA complaining about illegal immigrants coming in from, or   
   through, Mexico, but there's a LOT more of it there than through Canada,   
   and things like drugs, I'd be willing to bet more drugs are moving from   
   the USA into Canada than in the other direction. Both things are bad of   
   course but that should have made a good case for having a united service   
   working together policing the border rather than putting tariffs on   
   everything we sell the USA.   
      
   RM> When Trump was making election speeches I don't recall him mentioning   
   RM> 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian Imports.   
      
   AT>He wasn't that specific, but I found (for example and article from PBS from   
   S   
     >27, 2024 (well before Election Day) that quotes him like this:   
      
   AT>"Former President Donald Trump has proposed a 60% tariff on goods from China   
     > a 20% tariff on everything else the United States imports."   
      
   Some of it was expected, like Canada put a 100% tariff on cheap electric   
   cars coming in from China. We are fighting new tariffs from China now   
   as a result of that but, in that case, it was a specific item that was   
   going to be a big problem.   
      
   And countries like China are always a problem. If sales start to drop   
   off, they keep the factories making goods and then their government   
   subsidizes them so that they can sell stuff in foreign countries far   
   cheaper than they can be made there, even ignoring what workers are paid.   
   It saves them paying to support people not working, which avoids creating   
   a 'class' of people who get used to living off of the government dollar   
   without having to work, which can happen and can actually become   
   generational where families haven't really had a job in generations.   
      
   AT>I'm confident that Pierre Poilievre will be able to help us resolve   
     >these issues.   
      
   I'm not sure who would be best in Canada.. A new Liberal leader was   
   voted in to replace Trudeau and the news that Trudeau was resigning   
   had already reduced Poilievre's lead in the polls from 20% to 1%,   
   and that was before the new Liberal leader Mark Carney was chosen   
   with 86% of the vote and financial backing that was 10 times what   
   the other potential candidates were getting, so he is super popular   
   and that may gain the Liberals even more ground.   
      
   That said though, Carney has never been elected to a post in his   
   life. He's not a politician, he is a Banker on a huge scale and   
   I fear that if he is let loose in charge of the country he will   
   do marvelous things to make the country successful, but cut support   
   to care for the poor and older people because that's too expensive   
   to be 'pracitcal'.  Bottom Line above all else?  Maybe..   
      
   RM> No, I think too many people on both sides of the border are mad about   
   RM> this and I can't see what he's doing being good for ordinary people,   
   RM> although your super rich probably love him..   
      
   AT>I can't speak for the super rich, but I have yet to hear any Trump   
   supporters   
     >scinding their endorsement of President Trump. I like Canada, and I have a   
   fe   
     >riends from Ontario, but I love President Trump. I literally pray for him   
   eve   
     >single day.   
      
   We'll all have to see what happens and then take another look to see   
   how we feel about it a year or two from now.   
   ---   
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