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   > It's funny, those who support Trump are often near fanatical about it,   
   > even people who his policies will hurt in the long run..   
      
   Funny thing, when I go on long vacations for some reason I always run into   
   at least one person who really wants to talk politics.  From the fall of   
   2015, every one of them has been a Trump supporter.  Here is the funny   
   thing... *any* of them that I have managed to accidentally get talking   
   about who they voted for in the past were *ALL* Obama voters at least one   
   election.   
      
   IIRC, there are at least two Trump supporters, including at least one rabid   
   MAGA, in the POLITICS echo who have also admitted to being past Obama   
   voters.   
      
   If someone can figure out why that is, they can probably win every election   
   from now on.  I suspect it has something to do with wanting someone they   
   see as powerful that will tell them what to think and do but that is only   
   part of it.   
      
   > I watched the 'talk' that Trump had with the president of Ukraine,   
   > Zelenskyy and, if it had been me, I'd have called Trump an asshole   
   > and walked out. He's basically suggesting that Ukraine started the   
   > war and that he's a dictator and that the only way out of it is for   
   > them to hand over 20% of their country to Russia and agree to give   
   > the USA exclusive rights to buy $500 Billion worth of various rare   
   > materials from them and, in exchange, the USA will, in theory, not   
   > let Russia take any more land from them.   
      
   I think that is sort of what Zelenskyy did.  He left without attending the   
   presser afterwards and without signing the agreement.  If I were him, I   
   would not sign it.  I would pull a Carlos Slim and find another partner   
   (maybe China) who would help them vs. Russia and who might also like their   
   minerals.   
      
      
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