Hello Bj”rn,   
      
    BK>> I would amend that to exclude personal attacks. When personal   
    BK>> attacks are allowed personal attacks take over.   
      
   BF>No need to. Libel and defamation is illegal in all civilized   
   BF>countries, and the law always supersedes any echo rules.   
      
   Of course.  But personal attacks are not necessarily libel   
   or defamation.  The question is, should personal attacks be   
   allowed in an echo?  And if so, under what circumstances?   
   In a designated flame echo, personal attacks are the norm.   
   But then, participants enter at their own risk, knowing   
   what to expect.   
      
   But not all echoes are designated flame echoes.  Nor are all   
   echoes intended to be designated flame echoes.  So when does an   
   echo become a designated flame echo?  When personal attacks are   
   allowed.  If personal attacks are allowed for some, personal   
   attacks are allowed for all.  It's (implied) in P4.   
      
   --Lee   
      
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