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   RM>> I should be careful about saying too much directly about Trump. I would   
     >> guarantee that we get different news up here than you get down there and   
     >> I'm not sure whether they just highlight what gets people's attention   
     >> in that country or if some things are blocked down there that we get   
     >> to see up here. Probably in both countries we should take the main   
     >> news with a bit if a grain of salt, although the NON mail news people   
     >> can be a serious problem as well.   
      
   MP>Down here, whatever will get the most clicks is what we are going to see   
     >and hear the most.   
      
   Some part of the problem may be that the gov't has some control over   
   what ends up on the news, as much as we'd hope that isn't the case,   
   and that's why I mentioned we may see things you don't. I was trying   
   to find a news story from a while back, maybe 2 years, when Trump made   
   some long speech and a news channel down there fact checked it and,   
   if I recall, found more than 100 'inaccuracies' in facts that Trump   
   was giving. I tried to find the exact info on that online but it seems   
   to have vanished, or been deeply buried. While looking for it I did   
   find similar references to recent talks he gave siting between 20   
   and 40 'errors' in his talks.   
      
   MP>Yes, trade wars do not help the consumer, especially if they drag on for   
     >any amount of time.   
      
   Yes, we've spent about 50 years setting up one of the best relationships   
   in the world for trade and it's in danger of serious harm. Nothing has   
   even happened yet but it's already cost the USA many millions of   
   dollars as Canadians expecting the worst (and resenting it) have   
   cancelled trips to the USA and stopped buying USA products in the   
   stores, and this is before anything has been done yet. If Trump is   
   bluffing he's hurting your economy a lot doing it.   
      
   MP>Interesting.  When I was in Canada in 2017, a Canadian explained to me that   
     >a lot of the oil "exported" to the US is actually sent here to be refined   
     >into gasoline and is then imported back into Canada, which is why he said   
     >he pays more for gasoline in Canada.  He insinuated that the Canadian   
     >refining capacity is kept intentionally low by regulations (I am guessing   
     >environmental).   
      
   We do have much fewer processing plants than you do for whatever reason.   
   Definitely you don't want to build more of them than necessary due to   
   pollution issues so we got into doing this back and forth trading and   
   we both benefit from it to some extent.. at least we used to..   
      
   They mentioned on the news today that almost all of our trade routes   
   for highway, rail and oil pipelines run North South, to trade with   
   you rather than with the rest of Canada. There is talk of totally   
   changing that as well. We have more trade restrictions between   
   provinces here than we do for trading with the USA.. The problem   
   with this is, once changes are made, even if your next President   
   reverses the bad ideas, the changes we make to survive them may   
   stay permanent now that we see that the trusting relationship we   
   have had with the USA can be changed on a whim..   
   We will always deal with you due to proximity but likely do less   
   trade and do more with the rest of the world.   
      
   RM>> Fortunately this is his last term and I fear he is trying   
     >> to do something to really stand out in the history books more than   
     >> it actually being something to 'make America Great again'...   
      
   MP>He should be trying to do good things to stand out.  Not so sure that idea   
     >has sunk in, though.  :(  If it were me, I would prefer not to be known as   
     >the President who ruined Canadian-American relations.  I guess he maybe has   
     >other ideas.   
      
   Yes, really.. I suppose for him it will be a win-win though no matter   
   which way it goes. He'll be famous for doing something amazing or for   
   (more likely) doing so much damage he'll be held up forever as the   
   prime example of what Not to do..   B)   
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