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   Message 413 of 2,445   
   Rob Mccart to MIKE POWELL   
   Re: Chinese Scientists Cr   
   20 Feb 25 01:43:00   
   
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   RM>> But they say that Trump's tariffs will act more like a tax on regular   
     >> Americans while hiding that it is a tax, while he's also trying to   
     >> bankrupt Canada to get us to join the USA.   
      
   MP>I have never actually heard anyone explain why he wants Canada to join the   
     >US.  I actually thought it was a jab at Trudeau and not something he was   
     >serious about.  Of course, I also thought the "Gulf of America" discussion   
     >was a jab at Mexico but then it happened.   
      
   I should be careful about saying too much directly about Trump. I would   
   guarantee that we get different news up here than you get down there and   
   I'm not sure whether they just highlight what gets people's attention   
   in that country or if some things are blocked down there that we get   
   to see up here. Probably in both countries we should take the main   
   news with a bit if a grain of salt, although the NON mail news people   
   can be a serious problem as well.   
      
   Originally we did think that the Canada as the 51st state was a bit   
   of a joke, but he seems to be getting more and more serious about it   
   all the time. Honestly though, with him it's hard to tell what is a   
   ploy and what he's serious about. The bottom line is that a trade   
   war between our countries would just cost the regular people more.   
   The gov't will collect the tariffs as income and the amount of them   
   will just get passed down to the regular consumers in higher prices   
   so it acts more like a tax on almost everything you buy.   
      
   But it sounds like if he could arrange it at all Trump would like   
   the USA to take over Canada, Greenland, Panama and the Gaza strip.   
      
   MP>In Canada, what is the general feeling as to why Trump wants Canada   
     >to join with the USA?   
      
   We have a lot of rare minerals and natural resources that we sell to   
   you and of the oil you import, 60% of it comes from Canada. Trump was   
   talking about a $200 Billion trade deficit with Canada - us selling   
   you that much more than you sell us - but they looked at that up here   
   and found if you remove Oil from that figure, which we actually sell   
   to you at 20% less than the going market rates, then you actually   
   end up with a small trade surplus. Someone said a while back that if   
   the Tariff war comes through and affects oil that Americans can   
   expect to pay about an extra $10 to fill their tanks.   
      
   Canada and the USA have one of the best relationships in the world   
   with the longest undefended border in the world. We generally like   
   each other and our trade back and forth is a huge part of both of   
   our economies so I hope that Trump doesn't do anything to mess that   
   up more than he already has (tourism and cross border shopping is   
   way down and we are booing each others national anthems at sporting   
   events). Fortunately this is his last term and I fear he is trying   
   to do something to really stand out in the history books more than   
   it actually being something to 'make America Great again'...   
   ---   
    * SLMR Rob  * Be careful, or I'll include you in my plans   
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