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|    Rob Mccart to MIKE POWELL    |
|    Re: Chinese Scientists Cr    |
|    20 Feb 25 01:43:00    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 118.consprcy@1:2320/105 2c1c6096       REPLY: 111.consprcy@1:2320/105 2c19ce50       PID: Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 202 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/acc19483f Apr 26 2024 23:04 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       RM>> But they say that Trump's tariffs will act more like a tax on regular        >> Americans while hiding that it is a tax, while he's also trying to        >> bankrupt Canada to get us to join the USA.              MP>I have never actually heard anyone explain why he wants Canada to join the        >US. I actually thought it was a jab at Trudeau and not something he was        >serious about. Of course, I also thought the "Gulf of America" discussion        >was a jab at Mexico but then it happened.              I should be careful about saying too much directly about Trump. I would       guarantee that we get different news up here than you get down there and       I'm not sure whether they just highlight what gets people's attention       in that country or if some things are blocked down there that we get       to see up here. Probably in both countries we should take the main       news with a bit if a grain of salt, although the NON mail news people       can be a serious problem as well.              Originally we did think that the Canada as the 51st state was a bit       of a joke, but he seems to be getting more and more serious about it       all the time. Honestly though, with him it's hard to tell what is a       ploy and what he's serious about. The bottom line is that a trade       war between our countries would just cost the regular people more.       The gov't will collect the tariffs as income and the amount of them       will just get passed down to the regular consumers in higher prices       so it acts more like a tax on almost everything you buy.              But it sounds like if he could arrange it at all Trump would like       the USA to take over Canada, Greenland, Panama and the Gaza strip.              MP>In Canada, what is the general feeling as to why Trump wants Canada        >to join with the USA?              We have a lot of rare minerals and natural resources that we sell to       you and of the oil you import, 60% of it comes from Canada. Trump was       talking about a $200 Billion trade deficit with Canada - us selling       you that much more than you sell us - but they looked at that up here       and found if you remove Oil from that figure, which we actually sell       to you at 20% less than the going market rates, then you actually       end up with a small trade surplus. Someone said a while back that if       the Tariff war comes through and affects oil that Americans can       expect to pay about an extra $10 to fill their tanks.              Canada and the USA have one of the best relationships in the world       with the longest undefended border in the world. We generally like       each other and our trade back and forth is a huge part of both of       our economies so I hope that Trump doesn't do anything to mess that       up more than he already has (tourism and cross border shopping is       way down and we are booing each others national anthems at sporting       events). Fortunately this is his last term and I fear he is trying       to do something to really stand out in the history books more than       it actually being something to 'make America Great again'...       ---        * SLMR Rob * Be careful, or I'll include you in my plans        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/305 153/7715 154/110 218/700 226/30       SEEN-BY: 227/114 229/110 111 114 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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