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|    Mike Powell to All    |
|    The dream of orbital AI compute may come    |
|    04 Feb 26 09:48:57    |
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As part of announcing       the acquisition of his xAI company by (the also Musk-run) SpaceX, he declared       that not only was space ideal as a cheap location for running AI servers, but       that it would happen faster than most kitchen renovations on Earth.              "My estimate is that within 2 to 3 years, the lowest cost way to generate AI       compute will be in space," Musk wrote in the announcement. " This       cost-efficiency alone will enable innovative companies to forge ahead in       training their AI models and processing data at unprecedented speeds and       scales, accelerating breakthroughs in our understanding of physics and the       invention of technologies to benefit humanity."              Estimate is a term doing a lot of work here, because when you look closely, the       numbers don't add up, and neither does the physics. Still, it's a       headline-grabbing idea, now further amplified by SpaceX swallowing up xAI. The       idea of space-based AI processing isn't outlandish on its own. Other AI       developers have also been exploring the prospect, with both Google and Amazon       in initial design discussions. After all, AI is power-hungry, and space has       infinite sunshine and no water bills.              But a grand, interplanetary vision isn't the same thing as a realistic       business plan - especially not one that delivers within 36 months. The       infrastructure isn't ready. Merging an AI company with a rocket company       doesn't fast-forward the Earth's rotation. If you believe Musk will have AI       data centers in orbit before 2030, I've got a used Tesla humanoid robot to sell       you.              Imaginary booster rockets              Space offers uninterrupted solar radiation, ambient cold for thermal       dissipation, and the ultimate perk for remote work: zero zoning restrictions.       Musk's point isn't entirely unfounded. Data centers are energy-devouring       creatures, sucking up power, land, and water, and sparking political battles.              Meanwhile, in orbit, you're above the clouds and below the radar. No utility       bills. No water rights battles. There are many reasons to be intrigued by       orbital compute. But there are many more to be skeptical of its imminent       arrival.              Even assuming record-setting rocket launch schedules that are all successful,       getting mass to orbit still isn't cheap. Launching a full data center's       worth of equipment into space, with radiation shielding, thermal management,       fault tolerance, and redundancy, is not something that can be done affordably       in any timeline under a decade. And that assumes zero maintenance or upgrades.       Terrestrial centers swap out dead GPUs like old lightbulbs. Up there, your only       hope is robotic servicing or tons of redundancy.              And all that sunlight energy comes with plenty of less enticing radiation.       Cosmic rays, solar flares, and the general hostility of space are not side       issues. They're central to why most satellites are hardened, expensive, and       decades behind in chip design. GPUs built for inference and training are       fragile. They aren't designed to float above the Van Allen belt.              Not to mention the space trash. Putting thousands of compute satellites into       low-Earth orbit could cause a cascade of collisions. SpaceX is already dominant       in orbital traffic. Layering a second orbital network of AI computers could       raise significant regulatory and environmental backlash, even wittout constant       danger of crashes.              Decades, not years              As a long-term plan, space data centers could be a great option. They could       offload pressure from power grids, avoid zoning fights, and scale globally       without boiling local lakes. The physics aren't impossible, but the equations       translate to complex, difficult, expensive engineering. Three years for a       functioning AI data center in orbit is not serious, and people who say it will       happen shouldn't be taken seriously.              Not because people don't want to make the orbiting AI data centers happen,       but because large-scale infrastructure, especially in space, requires patience,       iteration, and a willingness to admit when Earth is still the better option.       Admitting mistakes and backing down from grandiose fever dreams are not habits       for Musk. But, like his robots, his fleet of self-driving cars, and his video       game prowess, the orbiting AI centers are laughable nonsense. Give the project       to real engineers and ask them about a real timeline, and we'll see how the       first satellites are doing in a decade or so.                     https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/musk-insists-that-the-lowest-       cost-way-to-generate-ai-compute-will-be-in-space-within-three-years-after-space       x-acquired-xai-but-that-timeline-is-more-science-fiction-than-strategy              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 134 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 633/280 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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