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That's industrial policy."               In other words, if SK Hynix and Samsung continue to manufacture RAM modules       outside the US, in Asia, they could face those tariffs. A 100% tariff would       effectively mean a 100% import tax on memory chips coming from abroad, which       would, of course, be a hefty price to pay.               The idea, then, is to have these two companies ramp up chip production on US       soil to avoid punishing tariffs when selling to this market. Note that what       the US government wants is for SK Hynix and Samsung to actually manufacture       RAM chips in the US (and not just package up the chips made in Asia, and then       shipped over, which is what happens with the manufacturing plants that the        two firms have currently in the country).               Even Micron doesn't produce all that much of its total memory chip production       in the US, but it does have some manufacturing happening in the country and       plans to expand that considerably further. Indeed, Lutnick made his        statement, as reported by Bloomberg, at the groundbreaking ceremony for a new       $100 billion multi-foundry complex that Micron is building in New York (part       of a $200 billion drive to build new manufacturing facilities in the US).              Analysis: how might this affect consumers?              There are some obvious problems here for US consumers, and possibly for the       government, too.               For starters, if the US did instigate this 100% tariff move, who's to say it       would have much effect in forcing the hand of either SK Hynix or Samsung in       terms of expanding US manufacturing? To say that RAM is a seller's market       right now is possibly the underestimation of the century in the tech world,        so it's not like losing US customers is going to hurt these chip makers or       deflate the massive profits they're currently enjoying.               Ultimately, though, it's not memory makers or laptop or PC manufacturers       that'll suffer the real pain will be inflicted on the average US consumer.        As noted, the potential measure threatened is effectively a 100% import tax       that will just be passed directly on to the buyer of the piece of tech that       the memory is inside, as all these cost increases inevitably are.               We could end up in a situation where there's a forecast 50% price hike coming       with RAM in Q1 of 2026 , over the next couple of months, on top of the        already miserably large increases witnessed in the final quarter of 2025. And       then, on top of that, US consumers will have to pay more if what's        effectively a 100% import tax on memory comes into force, meaning an increase       on top of an increase on top of an increase.                More expensive storage , and much more expensive RAM, are going to push up       the price of laptops and desktop PCs alike GPUs are hit in this regard , too       (as they have video RAM, which is also now in shorter supply, and therefore       more expensive).               It's tricky to gauge how this might play out, and it'll vary a good deal from       model to model, but the theorized tariffs might mean laptops get something       like 10% pricier due to the extra inflation on the bill for RAM on top of        the already steep rises the memory shortage crisis is already causing.       Higher-end laptops, and the likes of Copilot+ (AI) PCs, will be hardest hit,       as they demand beefier and faster memory configurations.               We aren't at the point of the US government implementing these measures       they're just threats at the moment. But the administration clearly believes       that leveraging tariffs works, so it's hardly inconceivable that Lutnick        could follow through and enforce such measures assuming some kind of deal       can't be struck regarding investment in the US with the memory chip makers       outside of Micron.               ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/computing/memory/the-memory-price-hike-crisis-could-       get-even-worse-as-us-threatens-100-percent-tariffs-this-is-how-it-could-affect       -you              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 134 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 633/280 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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