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And privacy experts aren't celebrating.              FULL STORY              After three years of back-and-forth, the EU Council finally agreed on the       controversial Child Sexual Abuse Regulation (CSAR) bill on November 26, 2025.       The bill which has gained the nickname, Chat Control is now likely to        become law.               Despite winning the majority, the compromise on voluntary chat scanning did       not garner support from all states, with Italy, the Czech Republic, Poland,       and the Netherlands still in opposition to the current text. And privacy       experts aren't ready to celebrate, either.               "A very sad day for privacy and a missed opportunity to invest in efforts to       effectively protect children," commented Belgian cryptographer Bart Preneel        on LinkedIn . Preneel was among the scientists who signed an open letter a        few days before the vote to warn that the compromise still " brings high        risks to society ."               According to former MEP for the German Pirate Party and digital rights        jurist, Patrick Breyer, the EU Council has endorsed a Trojan Horse rather        than fixing previous issues with the bill.               "By cementing 'voluntary' mass scanning, they are legitimizing the       warrantless, error-prone mass surveillance of millions of Europeans by US       corporations," he said. "This is not a victory for privacy; it is a disaster       waiting to happen."               Despite the privacy backlash, the November 26 agreement means that the Danish       proposal will continue to the final step of the legislative process. The EU       Council, Parliament, and Commission are set to begin the trialogue       negotiations to confirm the final text, with adoption expected by April 2026.              "Voluntary mass surveillance"              The biggest change with the new Danish Chat Control text is in its approach        to chat scanning. From forcing messaging services including those using       end-to-end encryption to perform indiscriminate scanning on the lookout for       child sexual abuse material (CSAM), providers will now have the option to       choose whether to scan all users' chats or not.               This has been considered a victory by many, as it saves encryption from being       undermined with a backdoor. Director of Government Affairs and Advocacy at        the Internet Society, Callum Voge, told TechRadar it was "a positive step       forward for the security of communications of European residents."               But the devil may be in the details. The text does include a provision that       could force companies to scan messages if their services are deemed to be       "high-risk." The bill also includes the possibility for the European       Commission to review the law every three years, so widespread scanning could       be implemented at a later date.               And while Recital 17a says that "Nothing in this Regulation should be       understood as imposing any detection obligations on providers," it's yet to        be seen how this wording is interpreted at the trialogue negotiations.               What's certain is that, for Breyer, "voluntary" scanning still fails short in       protecting EU citizens from mass surveillance. He said: "Calling this       voluntary does not make the violation of the digital secrecy of        correspondence any less severe. We must stop pretending that 'voluntary' mass       surveillance is acceptable in a democracy."               This stance is also shared by one of the best VPNs on the market, Mullvad VPN       . "The EU Council failed to implement mandatory mass surveillance. However,        in its proposal, they are laying the groundwork for mass surveillance in the       future."              Beyond scanning and encryption               While the new Chat Control has tried to fix existing privacy and security       issues around mandatory encryption backdoors, it has also added other       provisions that experts fear could jeopardize EU citizens' digital rights.               Under the November 13 proposal , messaging service providers must take all       necessary measures to protect children, including performing age verification       checks to "reliably identify child users."               While the Council stressed that age verification methods must be       "privacy-preserving," many think this will be impossible to achieve in       practice.               "Even if age verification is done in a privacy-friendly way (unclear that        this is how it will work), it is easy to bypass (just check what happened in       the UK)," Preneel wrote on LinkedIn. He was likely referring to the spike in       VPN usage linked to age verification laws.               All in all, Preneel says: "Age assessment is highly problematic for privacy.       There is no scientific study demonstrating that these technologies are       effective."               The bill's new text also contains provisions on website blocking obligations       that worry the team at Mullvad. "Once this infrastructure is in place, it        also opens the door to a slippery slope when it comes to censorship," said        the Swedish VPN firm.              What's next?               Despite the controversy, the Danish Presidency managed to convince the       majority of EU members to support its compromise, paving the way for the       trialogue negotiations to finally kick off.               This means that the EU Parliament, Council, and Commission are now set to        work together to agree on a final, binding text.               "My expectation is that there will be strong pressure to conclude these       negotiations quickly," Voge told TechRadar. However, he said the April       deadline may be too soon to finalize the bill.               As discussions are set to start soon, Mullvad is urging the Parliament to       stand firm and not deviate from previous positions, urging MEPs to say "no to       mass surveillance whatsoever without suspicion and a court order, no       ID-verification requirements, and no censorship of legal content."               According to Voge, however, the EU Commission is most likely to put its foot       down if needed. He said: "The Commission is the one that has an opposing view       when it comes to encryption. We will need to watch the trilogue closely to        see what trade-off the three parties might agree to."               ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/a-disaster-waiting-to-happe       n-the-privacy-tech-world-reacts-to-the-new-chat-control-bill       $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 134 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 633/280 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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