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   Mike Powell to All   
   The future of jobs and AI   
   22 Nov 25 09:58:14   
   
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   Elon Musk on the future of jobs and AI, 'My prediction is that work will be   
   optional'   
      
   Date:   
   Sat, 22 Nov 2025 00:00:00 +0000   
      
   Description:   
   Musk predicts that AI and robotics will wipe out the need to work and   
   currency.   
      
   FULL STORY   
      
   The automation that comes with AI is certain to affect jobs, but when    
   recently asked about this topic, Tesla CEO Elon Musk, as is his way, went a   
   step further and declared, "My prediction is that work will be optional."    
      
   Now, this is a bold statement, though perhaps Musk, who appeared alongside   
   Jensen Huang (who has his own strong opinions on AI and jobs ) at the   
   U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum in Washington, D.C., thought this kind of global   
   stage was the perfect place to make such a wild prediction.    
      
   To be fair, Musk didn't say this AI workforce revolution would happen today    
   or even next year. "Maybe it's 10-20 years, something like that. For me,   
   that's long-term," he explained.    
      
   As for what work will remain, Musk seemed to describe it as mostly   
   teleoperated: "It'll be like playing sports or a video game." So your job in   
   2035 might be performed from your couch via joystick.    
      
   In Musk's imagined future, there will be some who choose to work, but they'll   
   be like the people who have vegetable gardens. Perhaps it's best if I let    
   Musk explain.    
      
   I think at some point, currency becomes irrelevant.    
     -- Elon Musk   
      
   "In the same way, you can go to the store and buy some vegetables or you can   
   grow vegetables in your backyard...it's much harder to grow vegetables in    
   your backyard, but some people do it because they like growing vegetables.   
   That will be what work is like, optional."    
      
   This premise doesn't hold up in any logical sense, but Musk buttresses the   
   argument with a rather magical leap.    
      
   "Now, there will still be constraints on power, like electricity and mass     
   the fundamental physics elements will still be constraints  but I think at   
   some point, currency becomes irrelevant."    
      
   Look, I know we just ended the Penny in the US, but we still need all those   
   other nickels, dimes, and dollars to buy all those vegetables we're not   
   growing in our backyard.    
      
   On the one hand, Musk is not wrong that AI is eating into the job market.   
   McKinsey reported that 92 million jobs could be displaced by automation by   
   2030. Goldman Sachs put the number at 300 million jobs globally , though the   
   timeline is not clear.    
      
   So what's the problem with Musk's dystopian view? Like him or not, the    
   world's richest man is a change- and taste-maker. He has the ear of at least   
   one President (when they're not fighting) and is revered on his owned and   
   operated platform X (formerly Twitter) by millions.    
      
   He is also, arguably, often unable to control impulsive thoughts or think   
   through the ramifications of his words.    
      
   I've covered Musk for over a decade (for two years I ran podcast on his daily   
   doings) and this attitude of bold pronouncements often followed by confusion   
   or consternation has been pretty much on brand for him for over a decade.   
      
   A change maker but what's the agenda?   
      
   Some of what Musk promises or says comes true. He willed Tesla into becoming    
   a global EV brand and applied the same kind of drive to making SpaceX the   
   shuttle for both the International Space Station and thousands of Starlink   
   satellites. He talked himself into owning Twitter and then refashioned it in   
   his own unpredictable image.    
      
   Musk has often said he cares most about the Internet, energy, and becoming a   
   multiplanetary species (he once said it to me), but it's often hard to know   
   what he stands for. He tweeted in 2020 , "I am selling almost all physical   
   possessions. Will own no house," and yet he is not only the richest man in    
   the world, but does seem quite concerned with monetary wealth, having just   
   negotiated one of the largest CEO pay packages in history .    
      
   It's easy, I think, for the world's richest man to tell people, many who are   
   struggling paycheck to paycheck, that money won't matter and work will be   
   optional because AI and robots will do everything for us. Musk says it'll    
   take a lot of work, but he has never offered any plans for helping regular   
   people through that work to arrive at this utopia or dystopia.    
      
   Well, no plan beyond AI and humanoid robotics, which he said "will actually   
   eliminate poverty." How this happens is unclear, and I doubt Musk has a plan   
   for making it so.    
      
   Instead, he just keeps building rockets to take I don't know who to an   
   uninhabitable Mars, and keeps building tin car trucks that most consumers   
   could never afford, let alone want. He aligns himself with a US    
   administration that cosies up to the wealthiest nations while people in small   
   towns hold down two or more jobs to pay for next week's Thanksgiving dinner.    
      
   I think back to the man I met more than a dozen years ago. I thought he was   
   brilliant, a little shy, and probably overworked. Even back then, he was   
   running Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity. He told me how he used email to manage   
   it all and keep it all straight.    
      
   It was a good talk, and I felt comfortable asking him about his hobbies or   
   skills outside of business. He had none but shared that he could whistle. So    
   I asked him to whistle something, and he chose, "Fly me to the moon."    
      
   It was a sweet and fairly innocent moment. What, I wonder, would Musk whistle   
   today?   
      
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   Link to news story:   
   https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/elon-musk-on-the-future-of-j   
   obs-and-ai-my-prediction-is-that-work-will-be-optional   
      
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