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   Mike Powell to All   
   The vote on Chat Control   
   14 Oct 25 08:31:10   
   
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   The vote on Chat Control has been postponed, but the fight isnt over yet   
   here's what we know   
      
   Date:   
   Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:21:02 +0000   
      
   Description:   
   The move comes as Germany officially joined the opposition, making it   
   impossible again to reach the needed majority. Yet, the EU is still working    
   on the proposal.   
      
   FULL STORY   
      
   The EU's plan to monitor all citizens' private chats remains far from    
   becoming law  for now.    
      
   EU lawmakers have postponed a crucial vote on the controversial Child Sexual   
   Abuse Regulation (CSAR), which was scheduled for October 14 between the EU   
   Council and the EU Justice Minister.    
      
   The move comes as Germany joined the opposition on Wednesday, October 7,    
   after arguing that chat monitoring must remain taboo and the government "will   
   not agree" to the proposal.    
      
   Germany's decision is likely to be why Chat Control has failed to attract the   
   needed majority, yet again.    
      
   As per the Danish iteration of the bill, all messaging apps operating in   
   Europe would be required to scan all URLs, pictures, and videos shared by   
   their users in the lookout for child sexual abuse material (CSAM)  even when   
   the messages are encrypted.    
      
   Crucially, experts have long argued that such scanning isn't compatible with   
   how encryption works. Encryption is the technology that Signal, WhatsApp,   
   ProtonMail, and even the best VPN apps use to scramble the content of users'   
   messages into an unreadable form, preventing unauthorized access.    
      
   The CSAR proposal has been attracting strong criticism for its implications    
   on privacy and security, sparking a fierce debate around Europe.    
      
   Signals vice-president for global affairs even compared this mandatory   
   client-side scanning to " malware on your device ." Over 40 European   
   privacy-first tech companies have also warned against the impact on the EU's   
   digital sovereignty . More than 500 cryptography experts also signed an open   
   letter arguing that the bill still fails to address concerns around   
   encryption, indiscriminate surveillance, and accuracy.   
      
   Vote delayed, but Chat Control still on the table   
      
   This isn't the first time the EU has disagreed on Chat Control  a proposal   
   that first appeared on the EU agenda in 2022. Yet, the bill keeps coming back   
   to the lawmaker's table.    
      
   It is then only fair to assume that, despite the matter disappearing from the   
   October 14 agenda , the vote has only been delayed, and Chat Control is set    
   to return to the EU Council soon.    
      
   According to former MEP for the German Pirate Party and digital rights    
   jurist, Patrick Breyer, "EU governments continue to work on the proposal," he   
   wrote on X .    
      
   The next meeting may occur in a couple of months as, Breyer explains, EU   
   interior ministers are set to meet again on December 6 and 7.   
      
   On a similar note is X, who commented from its Global Government Affairs   
   account: "This delay marks an important step in protecting secure   
   communications, but the fight is not over! Member States are still    
   negotiating the provisions of the proposal with the goal to bring it back for   
   a vote."    
      
   Also, President of the non-profit Signal Foundation, Meredith Whittaker,    
   isn't ready to fully celebrate this win for privacy.    
      
   "We expect closed-door negotiations to engage in rhetorical arbitrage   
   claiming to support privacy by using word games and bespoke definitions while   
   in practice undermining it," wrote  Whittaker on X .    
      
   Something is clear, though. Whittaker said, "You can't create a backdoor that   
   only lets the 'good guys' in. However they're dressed up, these proposals   
   create cybersecurity loopholes that hackers and hostile nations are eagerly   
   waiting to exploit."   
      
   ======================================================================   
   Link to news story:   
   https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/the-vote-on-chat-control-ha   
   s-been-postponed-but-the-fight-isnt-over-yet-heres-what-we-know   
      
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