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   > MP>While I agree that incarceration *in jails* doesn't work, putting them in   
   >   >mental hospitals seemed to work better than what we do now... ignoring a   
   >   >lot of them until it is too late... and I would like to see us go back to   
   >   >that.   
      
   > I'm not suggesting I know what's best but I'd wonder if a mental   
   > hospital is the best place for someone who, in theory, can't be   
   > cured since it's part of who they are. This started off with talk   
   > of dangerous sexual preferrences so.. Trying to 'cure' a Pedohpile   
   > is a bit like trying to 'cure' someone of being Gay. They are what   
   > they are and maybe can fake they are now the way you want them to   
   > be (to get out) but you haven't really changed them.   
      
   Anything I have said so far is in regard to dangerous/violent offenders,   
   and my comments were not meant to be restricted to sexual predators... from   
   Kurt's post, I sort of read in that he was talking about all people who   
   have violent feelings/fantasy towards others, and not only of a sexual   
   nature.   
      
   If they are not offending, or showing clear signs that they will likely   
   offend, I don't think they need to be put anywhere.  If they are offending,   
   they need to be somewhere... jail, hospital.  If they are showing   
   clear signs that they are likely to offend, whether that offense be rape or   
   mass-killing,  they need to be off the streets.  I don't think jail is a   
   good place for this latter group as they've not offended yet, but we need   
   to stop waiting for persons "known to authorities" to offend before they   
   are either given help or, if the "help" doesn't help, locked away.   
      
      
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