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   -=> Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-   
      
    MP> While I agree that incarceration *in jails* doesn't work, putting them   
    MP> in mental hospitals seemed to work better than what we do now...   
    MP> ignoring a lot of them until it is too late... and I would like to see   
    MP> us go back to that.   
      
    When you look at mental health funding when compared to law   
    enforcement, it becomes apparent that we're letting people who need   
    serious help on the street and incarcerating them instead of treating   
    them. I want law prevention as well as law enforcement - fund   
    facilities for those people who're on the street because of mental   
    issues and you'll spend less on law enforcement and prisons. There are   
    police unions and privatized prisons that will take issue with that.   
      
      
    MP> The fact that we don't anymore is not something I can squarely blame   
    MP> "capitalism" for.  The original argument to stop hospitalizing came   
    MP> from the side of the political spectrum not usually associated with   
    MP> being pro- capitalism. They had a belief that it was better to try   
    MP> mainstreaming the mentally ill, and doing other things to try changing   
    MP> their behavior, instead of keeping them locked away from the rest of   
    MP> society.  They didn't have much support for their idea until they   
    MP> started using the "but it will save the government money" argument to   
    MP> manipulate the other side into doing what they wanted.   
      
    That's true, but when you look at the political power of police unions   
    and the prison system, their solution is more police and more   
    incarcerated.   
      
      
      
       
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