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   >  We, as a society still don't know what to do with people who can't   
   >  integrate into society. We've tried incarceration, we've tried   
   >  electrochemical means of changing behavior, and I don't think it's   
   >  worked. I don't know what the answer is and I don't think that   
   >  capitalism cares.   
      
   While I agree that incarceration *in jails* doesn't work, putting them in   
   mental hospitals seemed to work better than what we do now... ignoring a   
   lot of them until it is too late... and I would like to see us go back to   
   that.   
      
   The fact that we don't anymore is not something I can squarely blame   
   "capitalism" for.  The original argument to stop hospitalizing came from the   
   side of the political spectrum not usually associated with being pro-   
   capitalism. They had a belief that it was better to try mainstreaming the   
   mentally ill, and doing other things to try changing their behavior, instead   
   of keeping them locked away from the rest of society.  They didn't have much   
   support for their idea until they started using the "but it will save the   
   government money" argument to manipulate the other side into doing what they   
   wanted.   
      
      
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