Just a sample of the Echomail archive
Cooperative anarchy at its finest, still active today. Darkrealms is the Zone 1 Hub.
|    CONSPRCY    |    How big is your tinfoil hat?    |    2,445 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 1,789 of 2,445    |
|    Mike Powell to All    |
|    China's Project Stargate    |
|    28 Sep 25 08:53:58    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 1538.consprcy@1:2320/105 2d3e79f8       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       China's Project Stargate rival is pushing new data centers across the country       - and swallowing up farmland to do so              Date:       Sat, 27 Sep 2025 22:07:00 +0000              Description:       Chinas $37 billion Wuhu AI cluster seeks to rival US Stargate project,       centralizing compute power despite chip and sustainability challenges.              FULL STORY              Chinas ambitions in artificial intelligence have gained new visibility        through its plan to develop a domestic alternative to the massive Project       Stargate being pursued in the United States by OpenAI and Oracle.               While the American initiative is expected to support up to two million AI       chips, Beijing is advancing its own version anchored by a $37 billion project       in Wuhu.               Although far smaller than the $500 billion price tag linked to Stargate, the       Chinese project is designed to consolidate existing computing capacity into a       more centralized network.              The Wuhu project and its scale               The site selected for this project is in Wuhu, eastern China, and it covers       former rice fields along a 760-acre island in the Yangtze River basin.               This land, once devoted to food production, is being converted into a data       island for four of the countrys largest technology operators: Huawei, China       Mobile, China Telecom, and China Unicom.               By situating the new mega-cluster of data centers near major cities such as       Shanghai, Hangzhou, and Nanjing, planners hope to deliver faster inference       services to dense urban populations.               Beginning in 2022, China encouraged the construction of server farms in       interior provinces with cheap power supplies.               Yet these sites often sat idle, as local governments reallocated capacity to       areas where demand was higher.               The new plan attempts to fix that by linking both urban and remote data       centers through Huaweis UB-Mesh technology .               This technology can provide redundancy while allowing unused compute power to       be sold.               The Wuhu projects subsidies, which reportedly cover as much as 30% of AI chip       procurement costs, further reflect Beijings urgency to make the new clusters       operational.               China currently holds about 15% of global AI compute power, far less than the       United States estimated 75%.               Export restrictions have blocked access to advanced GPUs from Nvidia, leaving       domestic suppliers unable to fully match foreign performance.               That gap has created incentives for smuggling hardware, although officials       seem intent on developing self-sufficient AI stacks to reduce dependence on       overseas sources.               The long-term aim is that such infrastructure will allow both companies and       individuals to deploy more sophisticated AI tools .               Whether local chips can support this ambition remains uncertain compared to       Western options powering major data centers abroad.               The conversion of farmland into server space raises questions about       sustainability, resource allocation, and energy demand.               Supporters view the projects as vital for narrowing the technological divide,       while skeptics point out the costs of diverting agricultural land and the       uncertainty of relying on less powerful local chips.               Via Toms Hardware              ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/pro/chinas-project-stargate-rival-is-pushing-new-dat       a-centers-across-the-country-and-swallowing-up-farmland-to-do-that              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 111 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca