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|    23 Sep 25 09:00:51    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 1524.consprcy@1:2320/105 2d37e407       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       The US version of TikTok might be more concerning than the Chinese one              Date:       Mon, 22 Sep 2025 19:31:33 +0000              Description:       The US government says it's close to signing a deal to bring TikTok inside        the US, with US control, but so many big questions and concerns remain.              FULL STORY       ======================================================================              The White House has yet to deliver full details of the deal that will bring        at least 80% of TikTok ownership into the US, but there is one bit that, if        it comes to pass, could fundamentally change your TikTok experience: a       retrained, rebuilt, and redistributed algorithm.               I've been on TikTok since 2019, and one thing I've long marveled at is the       quality of the algorithm. It's the kind of programming that's so good you       barely notice it; it just silently curates your TikTok experiences based on       untold signals, including how long you spent on a post, previous posts you've       viewed, what you favorite, what you share, what you've quickly dismissed, and       far more.               It's one of the few algorithms that is almost instantly customizable. Want to       see more restoration or parrot TikTok in your feed? Just find one DIY or       parrot content and watch all of them, like them, and you will quickly be fed       another with similar content, if not in the next TikTok, then within the next       five.               The US White House said this week that Oracle, which will invest in the US       version, will also be the keeper of the US TikTok data. That's actually not        an update. Nor is the lack of access to US data by ByteDance's Chinese       counterparts.              The true size of this agreement               When TikTok launched Project Texas three years ago (and in response to        growing US security concerns), it launched a subsidiary called "TikTok US        Data Security (USDS)"               It was overseen by an independent board of directors and led by security       experts Andy Bonillo and Will Farrell. Together, these groups assumed control       of all US Data, which was shifted from servers outside the US to Oracle's       cloud services.               At the time, TikTok promised that even though the US data would be ringfenced       in the US and inaccessible to Chinese-based ByteDance employees, "U.S. users       of the TikTok platform can still communicate and interact with global users       for a cohesive global experience."               Again, if this all sounds familiar, it's because it mirrors much of what the       White House says it will sign as an agreement later this week .               The two primary changes, then, and they are significant, are the ownership,       which will shift from ByteDance to a consortium of US companies and        investors, as well as the algorithm rewrite.               It's that last bit that has me concerned. The White House has yet to name a       company or group tasked with rewriting the TikTok algorithm. With its       handpicking of the board of directors and the US government's deep        involvement in the process and oversight, we have no assurance that the US       Government will not force someone to write an algorithm that suppresses       certain kinds of content and voices.               At a more prosaic level, we have no idea if anyone in the US is capable of       rewriting the TikTok algorithm so that the experience remains the same.              A new TikTok app?              There have also been discussions that the TikTok app will be relaunched       (perhaps rewritten) as a new app. Put another way, we may all have to delete       ByteDance's TikTok app and install the new US-approved one, again, without       assurances that it will operate in the same way and still include the freedom       of expression the app has enjoyed for almost a decade.               Interestingly, the White House has not mentioned any of Byte Dance's other       apps, like CapCut, which many TikTokers use to edit and upload videos. Or       Lemon8, a social media app. Will those also be rewritten and rereleased, or       will they simply disappear?               Aside from questions about the algorithm and future TikTok experience, there       is the most basic one: Is China agreeing to any of this? ByteDance and China       have yet to publicly acknowledge the details of the agreement. According to       Reuters, this is China's official stance:                "China's position on TikTok is clear: The Chinese government respects the       wishes of the enterprise, and welcomes it to carry out commercial        negotiations in accordance with market rules to reach a solution compliant       with China's laws and regulations, and strikes a balance of interests."               That does not sound like agreement. "China's laws and regulations" when it       comes to business are wildly different than those in the US. It maintains       access to businesses run within China, but has carved out this special space       for TikTok, wherein it's being run as a separate US entity. All indications       are that China believes it's done enough (I've long contended that having        such a successful business in the US 170M users, 5M small businesses is a       point of pride for the Chinese government). But Trump's White House insists a       deal is about to be signed.               I'll believe it when the ink's dry. After that, I don't think we can count on       the new TikTok experience being just like the old one. Whatever that may        mean.              ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/computing/social-media/the-us-version-of-tiktok-migh       t-be-more-concerning-than-the-chinese-one              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 111 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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