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   > I don't know what more was said but what I saw about Kimmels   
   > 'egregious' comments on Canadian TV was when he suggested the   
   > killing was being used as a political tool,   
      
   That he did.  He also insinuated (too soon) that the shooter might have   
   been from the same side of the spectrum as Kirk and Trump.  That turned out   
   to be false.  He didn't come right out and say it, but that could be   
   thought of as trying to draw a connection between why Kirk was shot and   
   being able to use the shooting as a political tool.  He also called Trump a   
   d!ck.   
      
   IMHO, it was tame especially in comparison to some things other comics have   
   done over the past ~10 years.  With Kirk, you had a lot of folks who looked   
   to him as not just a political advisor but a "religious leader," too, which   
   complicates matters when it comes to discussing his death in any form of   
   negative light.   
      
   > and anyone who   
   > listened to Trumps speech today at the funeral can see that's   
   > exactly what's happening..   
      
   Yes, Trump is using it as best he can... he is aware that Kirk had a lot of   
   followers.  I am surprised that some of his comments have not alienated a   
   few of them, though!   
      
   > The killing was bad and should be acknowledged but a President who   
   > was assasinated would likely get less attenion than this 'advisor'.   
      
   Depends on the President, I think, but I also disagree.  Even today, if   
   something were to happen to Obama, for example, Kirk would quickly fall out   
   of the news cycle.  I also think Kirk would fall out of the news cycle   
   faster if he (1) wasn't still such a social media subject among both people   
   who liked and very much disliked him, and (2) if the fallout of the shooting   
   wasn't what it is... his organization is doing a lot better with recruiting   
   persons and chapters after his death than it ever was before.   
      
   Reinsert my religious leader/complicates matters statement here.   
      
   Instead of slowing the momentum of Kirk's message, the shooter really   
   accelerated it.  He'd have been a lot better off going to the function and   
   trying to debate Kirk but, instead, he chose violence and has just   
   amplified the message.   
      
   > Again, possibly working with limited information here..   
      
   Doesn't really sound like it... most of what you've heard is correct as   
   best as I can tell.   
      
      
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