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   > MP>I don't (on purpose anyway) here, either.  My guess is that they want the   
   >   >extra storage that "the cloud" is using for AI and are therefore blaming   
   >   >cloud users for what is really being caused by increased AI usage...   
   energy   
   >   >and water usage, etc.   
      
   > If I recall this was more about water usage than electricity use but   
   > suggestied that less data stored on servers would reduce the amount   
   > of water needed to cool them. I'd think a big part of the water part   
   > of it would depend on if coolant is recycled or just dumped with new   
   > water coming in to replace it, and where that water is coming from.   
   > Pretty much anything could be used but I suppose if the servers are   
   > in a city then it's a huge waste of clean, processed, drinking water.   
      
   > I half wonder if people mining Bitcoin aren't a bigger problem   
   > than cloud storage..   
      
   IMHO, the folks mining Bitcoin... and running AI servers... would require a   
   lot more cooling (and therefor water) than cloud storage.  Storing files   
   shouldn't really have much of any abnormally high cooling requirements as it   
   is not a CPU/GPU intensive process.   
      
   Also IMHO, they are trying to make "regular people" think they are the   
   problem in order to free up resources for increased AI use.   
      
   > Personally, I do use a cloud account for files I need to transfer   
   > between multiple units or files I temporarily park there for others   
   > to download, but I doubt I have 5 meg of total data on there..   
      
   I doubt that anything you've described is processor intensive, either.  ;)   
      
   Mike   
      
      
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