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|    11 Aug 25 08:51:08    |
      TZUTC: -0500       MSGID: 1345.consprcy@1:2320/105 2cff308d       PID: Synchronet 3.21a-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       TID: SBBSecho 3.28-Linux master/123f2d28a Jul 12 2025 GCC 12.2.0       BBSID: CAPCITY2       CHRS: ASCII 1       FORMAT: flowed       15% of Nvidia and AMD China chip sales to go to US government - new export       licenses subject to unprecedented sales tariff despite national security       problem              Date:       Mon, 11 Aug 2025 10:05:02 +0000              Description:       AMD and Nvidia will have to hand over 15% of the revenue from new China chips       sales to US government in 'unprecedented' sales deal.              FULL STORY              The US government has reversed a ban on the sale of Nvidia's H20 chip and        AMDs MI308 chip to China under the condition that 15% of the revenue is paid       to the US government.               The Trump administration expanded efforts to curb Chinas ability to obtain       powerful chips used to develop AI models by expanding Biden-era sanctions to       an outright ban on the sale of the processors.               Many security experts, including those working under the Trump        administration, have warned the government the sale of powerful processors to       China will help it to expand both its consumer and military AI efforts to       surpass the US.              What happened to national security?               The Nvidia H20 and AMD MI308 processors were developed to comply with Biden       administration restrictions on AI processing chips that could be sold in       China. Restrictions were imposed on the sale of powerful AI chips to China        due to national security concerns surrounding the development of AI models        for the Peoples Liberation Army.               Trump banned the sale of these chips to China following a trade spat in April       2025, and then reversed the ban in July. Now, seeing the apparent worth of        the sales and hoping to cash in, the Trump administration is issuing a 15%       revenue cut for itself.               Speaking to the BBC , Nvidia said, We follow rules the US government sets for       our participation in worldwide markets. While we haven't shipped H20 to China       for months, we hope export control rules will let America compete in China        and worldwide.               Whether this 15% revenue cut will be passed on to the Chinese market by        Nvidia and AMD remains to be seen. But the elephant in the room still        remains.              What happened to the national security problem?              Deborah Elms, head of trade policy at the Hinrich Foundation, said You either       have a national security problem or you don't. If you have a 15% payment, it       doesn't somehow eliminate the national security issue."               Despite sanctions and trade bans, China has still managed to import powerful       AI processing chips through loopholes and third-parties, and is likely using       the chips to train AI systems to be used for military purposes.               20 security experts wrote a letter to US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick       advising against the sales of the chips to the Chinese market, adding that       even though the majority of the buyers would be civilian companies, the chips       would still be used by Chinas military.               Chips optimized for AI inference will not simply power consumer products or       factory logistics; they will enable autonomous weapons systems, intelligence       surveillance platforms and rapid advances in battlefield decision-making, the       letter said.               Charlie Dai, vice president and principal analyst at global research firm       Forrester called the deal unprecedented, further stating that, The        arrangement underscores the high cost of market access amid escalating tech       trade tensions, creating substantial financial pressure and strategic       uncertainty for tech vendors.              ======================================================================       Link to news story:       https://www.techradar.com/pro/15-percent-of-nvidia-and-amd-china-chip-sales-to       -go-to-us-government-new-export-licenses-subject-to-unprecedented-sales-tariff       -despite-national-security-problem              $$       --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux        * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)       SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/305 153/7715 154/110 218/700 226/30       SEEN-BY: 227/114 229/110 111 114 206 300 307 317 400 426 428 470 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 705 266/512 291/111 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 902/26 2320/0 105 304 3634/12 5075/35       PATH: 2320/105 229/426           |
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