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   Hello Mike Powell!   
      
   ** On Thursday 22.05.25 - 16:04, Mike Powell wrote to All:   
      
    MP> The latest Gemini and ChatGPT models provide incredibly   
    MP> human- and expressive-sounding conversations. Some believe   
    MP> AIs have already beat the Turing test (basically when a   
    MP> computer's response is indistinguishable from a human's,   
    MP> at least as perceived by another human).   
      
   From https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-    
   intelligence/what-is-the-turing-test   
      
   "While the Turing test might be held as a benchmark for AI   
   systems to surpass, Eleanor Watson, an expert in AI ethics and   
   member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers   
   (IEEE),told Live Science that "The Turing Test is becoming   
   increasingly obsolete as a meaningful benchmark for artificial   
   intelligence (AI) capability."   
      
   "Watson explained that LLMs are evolving from simply mimicking   
   humans to being agentic systems that are able to autonomously   
   pursue goals via programming "scaffolding" - similar to how   
   human brains build new functions as information flows through   
   layers of neurons.   
      
   "These systems can engage in complex reasoning, generate   
   content creation and assist in scientific discovery. However,   
   the real challenge isn't whether AI can fool humans in   
   conversation, but whether it can develop genuine common sense,   
   reasoning and goal alignment that matches human values and   
   intentions," Watson said. "Without this deeper alignment,   
   passing the Turing Test becomes merely a sophisticated form of   
   mimicry rather than true intelligence."   
      
   "Essentially, the Turing test may be assessing the wrong things   
   for modern AI systems.   
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