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   RM> Not at all a comment on you guys but the number of people I've run into   
   RM> over the years with university degrees that were total idiots is amazing.   
      
   AT>This probably depends on where you end up working.   
      
   Actually, my most memorable experience with that was a woman I dated   
   for a year. I figured having a University degree was no guarantee of   
   high intelligence if she was any example..   B)   
      
   Oddly, during one long day when at the family home I met her brother   
   who was about to graduate university and he started off talking   
   down to me because he'd heard I didn't have a degree, but then we   
   got into talking computer programming and other complex issues and   
   he ended up changing his thinking about me..   
      
   He was a lot smarter than his sister though..   B)   
      
   RM> Ha.. On a somewhat unrelated line.. I once applied for work at   
   RM> the post office when they had a hiring blitz going on. I figured   
   RM> it was a relatively stable job with good pay and benefits, but   
   RM> the hiring process was pretty extreme with I.Q. and Psyche tests   
   RM> required. I later heard back from them and was told that I was not   
   RM> suited for the job because I'd scored too high on the I.Q. tests.   
      
   AT>I had the opposite experience. I took a test to become eligible for a postal   
     >ker job and I failed, bigtime. It was a memorization test, and I couldn't   
   mem   
     >ze the stuff. They gave us like 5 minutes to read and try to memorize   
   address   
     > and I couldn't do it. (But I swear that I could deliver mail just as well   
   as   
     >e next guy if I were given the chance.)   
      
   That was so long ago I don't even remember what was on the tests but   
   it took a couple of hours to do it as I recall.. But there was a   
   whole room of people taking the tests. Maybe they were opening a   
   new post office branch or something.   
      
   In more recent years I wrote 3 hours of tests for a possible job,   
   the tests supplied and marked by an outide agency at a cost of   
   $300 to the place wanting to hire you. In the end I didn't get the   
   job because someone in head office decided to give the job to an   
   existing employee instead, but when they called me back to explain   
   that to me, the guy who was there when I did the test, laughed and   
   said he shouldn't probably show it to me but he got out the test   
   results and the two main comments on it were that I would have to   
   be careful because I might be too friendly with the workers which   
   can make giving orders a challenge..   
   But the funny part was, they said that I had scored so high on the   
   Math and Physics parts of the I.Q. test they *highly* suspected   
   I had cheated. Since the guy who gave me the test was sitting   
   there with me the whole time he knew that wasn't possible.   
      
   As for memory, I'm not sure I was really great at that, although   
   in school I never studied for tests or did homework that wasn't   
   going to be marked and still managed to get through.. But later   
   I went into Real Estate for a while and the college courses for   
   the licensing involved a bunch of long, complex, legal phrasing   
   to draw up a legal sales document. In real life you can just   
   copy that from somewhere in the office but not when taking tests.   
      
   You needed 80% to pass the test, and I got 89% I recall, but after   
   the final class where we were given our marks the teacher pulled   
   me aside before I left and said that I had all the legal phrases   
   in my clauses that were required but my wording was quite a bit   
   different than what they had given us to memorize and he asked   
   where I'd gotten them. I told him that I didn't memorize the   
   clauses, I just learned what they had to contain and then wrote   
   them from scratch on the exam..   
      
   So.. still memory work I guess but not empty memorizing that a   
   lot of people might do without understanding why it was required.   
      
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