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   -=> Rob Mccart wrote to GRANT WEASNER <=-   
      
    RM> There are some things about that, like solar panels and wind generators   
    RM> are not nearly as efficient as they claim they are. My sister bought   
    RM> a bunch of solar panels and they don't make near the power claimed, not   
    RM> near enough to handle all their needs and they paid $80,000 for them.   
      
   I see this a lot.  And here in Michigan, it's even worse since it's overcast   
   much of the time **and** if you don't brush the snow off them, they produce   
   nothing.   
      
    RM> A lot of countries built huge numbers of wind turbines and are now   
    RM> just waiting for them to wear out so they can get rid of them.   
    RM> One area mentioned installing enough to supply 25% of their power   
    RM> but found, in reality, they only got about 6% out of them.   
      
   My previous company got some sort of grant to put small wind turbines on the   
   roof of their headquarters.  We were in the building accross the street so we   
   could see them and they were almost never spinning.   
      
    RM> Nuclear is highly efficient but has very expensive waste product   
    RM> problems and it's horrendously expensive to build plants.   
      
   The newer nuclear technology doesn't have nearly as big a waste problem.  And   
   the expense is mostly due to gov't regulation (usually useless regulation).   
      
    RM> genertor plant (Hydro Electricity?) in Ontario that has been in   
    RM> service so long that they have to convert the 25 cycle power to   
    RM> 60 cycle. We got rid of 25 cycle power in the mid 1950's.   
      
   Near me, we have a special "gravity" generator that's used to "jump start" the   
   grid.   
      
   So power plants need **some** power to start.  How do you power a power plant?    
   Well, that's what this special generator is for.  It's built on a bluff above   
   Lake Michigan.  It's effectively a big lake and some turbines.  It generates   
   electricity the same way a hydroelectric dam does just in a somewhat artificial   
   way.   
      
   So when the power goes out completely, and they are ready to start things up,   
   they open the gates, let the water run down to the lake and generate the power   
   needed to let the power plants start up.   
      
      
   ... Epitaph on a gravestone: Cheerio, see you soon.   
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