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   AT> a wood stove and a gas generator (and a lot less electric.)   
      
   RM> Ha.. you are describing my life.. I'm still on the electric grid but   
   RM> I live in the woods in a very primitive way. I don't have running   
   RM> water in winter and only cold running water in summer. An outhouse.   
      
   AT>I mentioned how we have more than 1 floor, but I told my wife "we can sleep   
   d   
     >stairs in the winter to stay warm." I'm serious about it, but she has this   
   "l   
     >s just pay the bill" attitude.   
      
   I suppose there are limits in both directions, trying to save too much   
   or ignoring the cost and going for comfort/convenience. The best place   
   is probably in the middle somewhere.   
      
   AT> To me, the $300 electric bill is a wake up call.   
      
   RM> My electric bills hit over $500 this winter, but I get a bit of a rebate   
   RM> so I think the highest was $425 or so..   
      
   AT>That's outrageous. When I first moved into this house I was seeing like $150   
     >the winter and about $70 in the summer. Now it's around $300 every month, no   
     >ter how much gas or electric we use (it's all on 1 bill.)   
      
   AT>I'm ready to put my foot down (and up the electric company's butt!)   
      
   My bill for March was about $260, so down quite a bit. When I'm here   
   alone I use less than $90 in summer with no heating to do.   
   But my sister and my niece and her family are up quite a bit in   
   summer (2 other cottages) and that can get the bills going up again   
   too, especially early and late in the season when you need some heat   
   in the early morning or overnight.   
      
   I recall one fall, cold but still well below freezing, my niece's   
   husband came up with 3 friends. I checked the meter before and   
   after they came and they'd used $45 worth extra in just 2 days   
   not too worried about wasting it since they weren't paying for it..   
      
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