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 Message 263,856 of 264,034 
 Rich Alderson to arne@vajhoej.dk 
 Re: [OT] PDP-11 & RA82 
 01 Dec 25 18:56:24 
 
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=?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?=  writes:

> On 12/1/2025 1:02 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-29, Dave Froble  wrote:
>>>> Why would anyone want one of these drives?  It sure isn't for storage
capacity.
>>>> There are many things from the past, but show me anyone who has any real
use for
>>>> them.  I mean, I do not collect wheels, covered wagons, model T Fords, and
>>>> certainly not an RA82 drive.

>>> Because some people care about how we got to where we are today.

>>> Around Europe, there are carefully preserved and some maintained
>>> historical train locomotives that are many decades old. Some are
>>> over a century old.

>> The RA81 and RA82 are not Model T Fords.  They are Maxwells, prone to
>> breaking down and leaving people stranded in the middle of the road.

>> When we were running many of them, we had a DEC FE who was on site a
>> couple days a week replacing heads, and without that support I would
>> not want to be running them.

>> There are many devices that should be preserved in working condition so that
>> new generations should see how they worked when they were new and experience
>> them working.  The RA81 should be left in the rack broken, so that new
>> generations can see how they were when they were new.

> RA81's and RA82's on a 8650.

> The RA82's were okay, but the RA81's crashed frequently. DEC field
> service knew that site very well.

> I have been told here that there were a manufacturing problem with
> RA81's and when the problem got fixed they stopped crashing all the
> time.

You've got the RA81 and RA82 backwards.  We had RA81s on a CI cluster at
Stanford, and they were pretty solid.

RA82s were not available for the 36 bit systems, but we heard about them from
our DEC FEs.

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