XPost: alt.folklore.computers
From: tnp@invalid.invalid

On 13/12/2025 15:55, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 20:27:51 +0100
> Alexander Schreiber  wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2025 08:57, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
>>>>> On 10/12/2025 22:07, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>>>>>> Well, the alternative would be to declare one language as the officially
>>>>>> binding one and if that is not your language, too bad. Not going to
>>>>>> happen for obvious reasons, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> The alternative would be to not *impose* 'harmonised' legislation on 27
>>>>> different countries with different cultures, economies, geographies and
>>>>> climates.
>>>>
>>>> Funnily enough, despite all the grumbling, all EU members joined
>>>> voluntarily.
>>>
>>> The UK did not join voluntarily. Our politicians did it on our behalf
>>> after lying to us about it.
>>
>> Please watch the educational documentaries "Yes Minister" and "Yes,
>> Prime Minister". They include the reasoning why it was critical for
>> Britain to join the EU.
>>
>>> When we were actually given a choice, we left.
>>
>> That "choice" was served with an impressive helping of lies. And one does
>> get the strong impression that it was meant merely as a tactical political
>> game and never intended to be executed upon. Then it was. Oops.
>>
>>> Or tried to. Our
>>> politicians are busy trying to reverse all that.
>>
>> Because even they can see the facts when those are punching them in
>> the face, yes.
>>
>>>> The EU is build not by conquest, but by individual states
>>>> applying to join the club. So if a state doesn't like that, they are,
>>>> of course, also free to leave.
>>>
>>> Not any more.
>>
>> Still are. Except most are not as fond of shooting their foot as the
>> UK was.
>>
>>>   > Which is what the UK did. It went amazingly
>>>> well of them, with the world lining up at their door to sign amazing trade
>>>> agreements with the UK, lots of money suddenly flowing into the NHS
>>>> and in general the UK becoming an economic and political powerhouse
>>>> again ...
>>>
>>> Yup. All of that.
>>
>> Of course. Next, India will come begging to be brought back under the
>> firm hand of the East India Company.
>>
>>>> oh wait, that didn't happen, it all went to crap for them, oops.
>>>
>>> No, it didnt .
>>>
>>> Despite every effort by the EU and indeed the British political class,
>>> to make sure it did.
>>
>> CEPR disagrees:
>> https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/brexits-slow-burn-hit-uk-economy
>>
>
>
> You are debating with a hardcore "philosopher", good luck with that.
>

The site he references is simply one of a number who are paid handsomely
to do exactly what they did 30+ years ago.

Tell everyone how great the EU is and how fucking stupid we were to leave.

But you only have to look at the EU region's national GDPs to see that
Britain is doing no worse and in many cases a lot better, than the rest
of Europe.

Despite the efforts of its current government.


--
"The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll
look exactly the same afterwards."

Billy Connolly

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