XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11
From: robin_listas@es.invalid

On 2025-12-12 06:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>
>
> On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with
>>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I
>>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were
>>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum
>>>> servo-assist.
>>>
>>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars
>>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking
>>> with
>>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory
>>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake
>>> instead.
>>
>> I never drove an automatic car.
>>
>> I guess my left leg kicks differently than my right, because the
>> pedals have different feeling, specially when the brake was not
>> assisted and I had to push really hard (decades ago).
>>
>> Steering was also an exercise. No servo. Cars were lighter, though.
>> Not over a ton.
>>
>
>      Ah you are a European with sensible designers.  In the USA a car
> that weighed
> under a ton would be foreign made except for a few lightweights back in
> the 1930s.
>      I do not think a family sedan such as my parents used weighed under
> 2 tons.
> Of course that time was over 68 years ago.  And steering was real
> exercise and
> brakes were unassisted.

My Renault Super 5 TL weighted 850 Kg (1874 pounds). A 42 horse engine
(31KW). If memory serves. I could do 140Km/h on a flat.

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Cheers, Carlos.
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