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 Message 242,103 of 243,097 
 olcott to Kaz Kylheku 
 Re: DD simulated by HHH and DD simulated 
 24 Nov 25 10:45:39 
 
XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c++
From: polcott333@gmail.com

On 11/24/2025 10:32 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2025-11-24, olcott  wrote:
>> On 11/22/2025 11:24 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>> That's just the thing! If this were correctly implemented then in fact
>>> DD /wold be/ calling HHH1, using the name HHH.
>>>
>>
>> You are trying to get away with this lie
>> about the semantics of C?
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>>     HHH(DD);
>>     HHH1(DD);
>>     return 0;
>> }
>>
>> _main()
>> [000022c4] 55             push ebp
>> [000022c5] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
>> [000022c7] 6834220000     push 00002234 ; push DD
>> [000022cc] e833f3ffff     call 00001604 ; call HHH
>> [000022d1] 83c404         add esp,+04
>> [000022d4] 6834220000     push 00002234 ; push DD
>> [000022d9] e856f2ffff     call 00001534 ; call HHH1
>> [000022de] 83c404         add esp,+04
>> [000022e1] 33c0           xor eax,eax
>> [000022e3] 5d             pop ebp
>> [000022e4] c3             ret
>> Size in bytes:(0033) [000022e4]
>
> That's right; even if HHH and HHH1 are separately realized and given
> different adddresses, not recognized as identical by the compiler and
> not folded into one copy, in a correct implementation of your software,
> HHH(DD) and HHH1(DD) would behave as indistinguishable, mutually
> interchangeable operations.
>

Except when their input calls themself.
In this case they must simulate themselves
simulating their input, not just simulate
their input.


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