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|    August Abolins to Kurt Weiske    |
|    Home Espresso Machines    |
|    19 Mar 23 12:27:00    |
      MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet 069284a6       REPLY: 2949.coffeekl@1:218/700 287484f7       PID: OpenXP/5.0.57 (Win32)       CHRS: ASCII 1       TZUTC: -0400       Hello Kurt!              ** On Monday 13.03.23 - 08:38, you wrote:               KW> It's got a decent sized-boiler - you can pull two expresso        KW> shots then immediately go about steaming milk or pulling        KW> boiling water for an americano.               KW> Two things that make it larger than some others are the        KW> system for disposing of coffee pucks and the front-mounted        KW> water reservoir. That makes it easy to maintain the unit        KW> if it's under a counter, like mine is.              The last machine that I had in use was a Bosch/Tassimo unit.        The coffee/tea pucks are very compact and thin. It was in use        for about 12 years. The quick/automated way of having a coffee        started and ready (walk off and do something else) was        addictive in of itself.              I was even contemplating offering "fresh" coffee at my shop        with a couple of units like that.              I did NOT appreciate having to take the system offline for the        descaler process every 6 months or so. However, I persisted        until I simply got fed up with paying the premium for the pre-        packaged pucks. Instead, I repurposed the machine to act as my        inline hotwater heater and just made my coffees with a        cone+filter that sits on top of the cup - and I used the much        less expensive loose-ground coffee - I did that for about 5        years.              Then, one day (after 10 years total) the machine reported a        fault light indicating that the water reservoir was empty,        although it was NOT. As a result, a simple descaler process        wasn't going to cooperate! I was already drinking decaf by        that time, so I wasn't really missing having a coffee. But the        machine is toast as far am I am concerned and will simply go to        landfill.              The machine only made at the most 4 to 6 beverages per day.        With those numbers it seems that 10 years of service, including        the recommended descaling, for a mchine like that seems        underperforming.              Anyway.. boiling water the simple way in a kettle, and letting        gravity and a paper cone do its magic is quite good and fast        enough.              I would imagine that your espresso machine would need far more        maintenance and cleaning than a simple water-only Bosch/Tassimo        system. I know you said that the machine "has already paid for        itself" in a few months (keeping in mind that the cost of        bistro coffees are overpriced to begin with), but I hope the        machine doesn't create maintenance headaches and added cost        down the road.       --         ../|ug              --- OpenXP 5.0.57        * Origin: Mobile? COFFEE_KLATSCH = https://tinyurl.com/y56r9f2o (2:221/1.58)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 10/0 1 15/0 90/1 92/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201       SEEN-BY: 123/131 129/305 153/7715 154/10 203/0 214/22 218/0 1 215       SEEN-BY: 218/700 720 810 840 850 860 880 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/110 111 112 113 206 307 317 400 424 426 428 452 470 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 230/0 240/1120 266/512 280/464 5003 282/1038 292/854       SEEN-BY: 301/1 113 812 317/3 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/81       SEEN-BY: 460/58 712/848 5020/1042       PATH: 221/1 301/1 218/700 229/426           |
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