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|    Doug Cooper to August Abolins    |
|    Hello, welcome, and w    |
|    01 Jun 20 23:28:07    |
      TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A45       MSGID: 1:227/702 66b5c7a6       TZUTC: -0400        AA> DC> I'm about ready to go back to a land line as well.        AA>         AA> Why?        AA>               August,              We both kind of prefer the written word then Tick Tock right? I think I've       read you discuss that. We are to a point in society where people look at       their phones in the middle of a conversation with you and never look up. My       wife texts me from the other room. My Dad facebook messages me a quick       update on his schedule rather then calling. Customers use text as a day       planner, invasivly texting on weekends in the late evening hours, or during a       family movie night. It's getting to the point where when people need to       solve a problem they email, or text. But dare ask them to pick up the phone       and they act afraid and or inconvenienced. My wife, and I love my wife,       don't get me wrong, it's just easier to use real reference then point fingers       .. her dad wants to buy us a chest freezer for her past birthday. She'll get       online and see that it says "call store for details, no online orders," and       she'll call her dad and simply say "They don't have any." Instead of simply       calling the store and inquiring. Or If there is a problem with an inaccurate       charge to her account from a retailer, she'll send a quick email, forget       about it, and never get it resolved. Or, my past clients, would ask "why do       I have weeds?" Well .. that requires a lot of questions, a lot of       explanation to type within email. So I'd try to call -- they won't answer.        So I used to spend over an hour compiling an email explaining their       situation, after reviewing their home, and it would go unread. I'm to a       point, until I own another business (Learning HTML right now ..) that if       someone wants to talk to me they can call. I don't reply to texts from       family or friends, other then BBS friends. But not those that I've known for       years. I don't reply to their emails either. They wanna talk -- call.        There is no substitute then hearing my dads voice, or seeing him face to       face. Not to mention that if not careful, people read tone into written       communication, most of the time inaccurately. I literally could have taken a       lot out of context to my newbie questions on FSXnet, but has not trained       themselves to read with postive intent, they usually read tone into messages       incorrectly. So, while I'm joking about a land line .. albeit their dang       cheap right now ... I treat my cellpone as one while unemployeed. Oh, and       younger generations want to do a job interview via text too .. I never hired       those that did.               Now smart phones have their place. I love the instant access to stocks, or       weather, or my schedule, alarms, etc.... but not a replacement for human       interaction, nor a rude distraction to someone who is genuinly trying to       communicate with me.               AA> He's found a purposeful activity. Keep encouraging it. FB is fairly         AA> simple. I steered my mom to FTN echomail in the pre-FB days. She         AA> mastered the quoting and cleaning up of wrapped lines very nicely. She         AA> participated in a few online forums too.        AA>               Yeah ..... Oddly he did not find a purposeful activity .. he grudgenly       adopted it and now uses it annoyingly, assuming everyone is able to see his       messages. When I try to show him stuff like that .. he becomes a grump.        lol! He's a "self sustained living, retired minister" who lives in a town of       no more than 50 people. He's funny, but when my children tried to connect       with him via the "Child Safe Facebook Messenger" feature .. he immediatly       assumed it a scan and scalded us for having enough technology to deal with       and how it was likely a scan to steal his credit card information. lol! God       love him ...               AA> That is one of the annoyances of FB for me.. lack of proper S)earch in        AA> a regular personal account. Otherwise, FB resembles one long continuous         AA> toilet-paper roll of meaningless crap: photos of food, stupid shared         AA> memes/jokes, etc.        AA>         AA> But I found out that a Group account does allow S)earches. Maybe have a        AA> group account for your dad.        AA>              See my FSXnet reply to the above, however a quick add .. I started a facebook       group to do videos and text on all things turf care. I have tons of videos       to edit and upload. And they are much more user friendly then the general       news feed.                AA> This echo, COFFEE_KLATSCH, is a good home-base to start from. Then,        AA> find another echo that might interest you, and try to steer people to        AA> that to continue those specific topics.        AA>               Took your advice -- the DAD echo. I'm starting a FidoNet All Pro Dad group,       so any dads reading, go check it out. It's an excellent program that I'll be       coordinating the material of for you to enjoy with your kids. It was onlyh       $50 for the year to be a "Captain," but was able to establish it as a FidoNet       All Pro Dad Chapter .. and allows me access to all of the Family first       content. Next up August -- Lawn Care. But my HTML online class has consumed       my time to write the material in text for a BBS format.                AA> Put out posters in your community at places like grocery stores,         AA> laundromats, post offices.        AA>               Thats a cool concept I had not thought of. My sister, Mary, is a 40 year old       Hippie stil hanging out at the Festivals with the 20 somethings. However,       she's an incredible artist, very well known in her scene, and is at those to       either display her paintings, or kinda odd to me, but paints on stage with       the bands playing .. Apparently it's a thing and she's requested every       weekend year round. I'll speak to her regarding that. She'd have the hook       ups. But I do feel that the Millenials are very into Retro / Nostalgia, and       have more in common with us GenX / Boomers that BBS then we think -- they too       value their privacy, want annonymity, like to speak their minds, enjoy retro       stuff, and prefer local community feel. And they too hate facebook ;)              You, I'm sure very much rember, the day of each SysOp sending $5-$10 a month       to the hub to make the long distance call out of state for networking? What       if we did that for facebook, snap chat, or other ads? I've also noticed that       a lot of BBS pages are set up as archive/historical purposes, and/or are not       clean and user friendly; beit in UI or or in the nomenclature used to       describe what a BBS is. While it's silly to think we can reinvent acronymns,       when hitting a landing page, maybe using the word "Apps" instead of "Files,"       or "Games" instead of "Doors," or "Blogs" instead of "Echos" would be       examples of ways to modernize the URL facing marketing toward BBS's. In       addition, to your point, there are grass roots marketing that is simple and       free, and could collect a few users. However, as a busines owner, you know,       frequency and debth witin marketing is what creates the most clicks and       traffic. Which also leads me to whether or not we are utilizing google (is       it called ad words?) correctly? I think, totally unrelated words: COVID,       TRUMP, etc... included within our text can surely draw more clicks then       "founded in 1989, My BBS was ..." Being strategic in how URL's are created,       with click tracking tools can assist greatly. Lastly, I know two guys that       can redirect web traffic (albeit not always for long) to their website as       opposed to another ... I don't like those dirty tactics. However, I think we       have an excellent, relevant, and very much alive format of "Social Media"       that people crave from the mainstream tech companies out there; without the       flaws .. however minus the photos ... which some just won't ever get or       understand.               AA> Your "Breaking News" write-up at telentbbsguide.com is very good!                      Thank you! Can't wait till you call! :) I'll work on being less wordy. I       free write. I don't have the patience to sentence combine, and reduction lol!              Glad I finally got the rescan on this echo ... love these types of       conversations!              --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)        * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (1:227/702)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 90/1 120/340 601 123/131 226/16 30 227/114 702 229/101       SEEN-BY: 229/424 426 452 664 1014 240/5832 249/206 317 400 317/3 322/757       SEEN-BY: 342/200       PATH: 227/702 229/426           |
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