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   Message 767 of 1,840   
   Wilfred van Velzen to Richard Miles   
   Re: Censorship   
   30 Sep 21 09:01:03   
   
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   Hi Richard,   
      
   On 2021-09-29 13:34:40, you wrote to me:   
      
    Wv>> No they can't, they have to stick to the law.   
      
    RM> Depends on the country I guess.   
      
   Of course. And they are all over the world, which makes it complicated for   
   them.   
      
    RM> In the US, they are sticking to the law. Censorship and the first   
    RM> amendment apply to federal, state and local government, not private   
    RM> companies. Those private companies can still be sued or face other   
    RM> consequences such as loss of business, etc.   
      
    RM> Personally I'm in favor of restricting corporate censorship but for now   
    RM> they are entirely within the law here. In the long run I think that   
    RM> businesses such as Facebook and Youtube, that are allowed to censor stuff,   
    RM> bleed over into public policy.   
      
   There should be extra rules for these big companies that play a big role in   
   society.   
      
    RM> Where does the line get drawn though?   
      
    RM> Child pornography? Rape videos, vaccine misinformation, racist videos?   
      
   There shouldn't be a line at all for the companies. When you will leave that   
   to these companies. they will do it wrong. Because their motive is making   
   money, not doing the right thing (whatever that may be). You should leave it   
   to the judicial system.   
      
   Maybe there could be teams of special trained cops, with special access to   
   facebook, youtube, and the like, who check for illegal content. They should be   
   payed for by taxes payed by these companies.   
      
    Wv>> And who are those people that make the judgement on the videos? Are   
    Wv>> they medical professionals? Is there an appeal procedure?   
      
    RM> I seriously doubt it (about being medical professionals).   
      
   They are expensive, so I also seriously doubt that. These companies will do   
   this as cheaply as they can get away with. So if they can do it with mediocre   
   AI, and not people they will. And you get what you pay for...   
      
    RM> As far as I know it can be appealed. Youtube, for instance, allows for   
    RM> appealing it. As far as I know so do the other social media platforms.   
    RM> I don't use them enough to really know the correct answer for that.   
      
   But how they handle these appeals is probably a secret...   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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