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    >  AA> How do you power your refrigerator?   
      
    > By having it plugged into a wall outlet! ;-)   
       
   Ahh..  a smart alec!  :D   
      
   I thought that solar = +batteries.  Apparently not.   
      
   Now that I recall,  the early financing programmes for solar installations at   
   people's homes (either via roof, or via standalone units) was a direct-to-grid   
   type of thing - no batteries required.   
      
    > What do you mean? My house isn't disconnected from the net.    
      
   Got it.   
      
    > Currently the electricity prices for "taking" and "puting" are equal by law.   
    > But that will change in the comming years. Puting electricity into the net   
    > won't give you as much money back as taking it from the net will cost you.   
      
   That's the thing here too. The early promises of solar benefits are being   
   eroded by the arbitrary increases in the "taking" cost and reducing the value   
   of the "putting".   
      
    > .. The live expectency of the   
    > installation is at least 20 to 25 years. So after the initial years, it's al   
    > profit. ;)   
      
   That will be a time of celebration! Freedom from the yoke.   
      
    >  AA> Some fortunate people use geothermal solutions for their heating   
    >  AA> and cooling options here.  I have plenty of surrounding land and   
    >  AA> a lake next door..   
      
    > That is indeed a very expensive solution. Some of our greenhouse customers   
    > in the Netherlands have such an installation. I don't know prices, but that   
    > would probably run into the millions for such industrial scale   
    > installations. But they have done the math, and wouldn't have invested into   
    > this, if it wasn't viable...   
       
   I think some people finance such things to the hilt to minimize monthy payments   
   as much as possible - while reaping the benefits of such installations. Then   
   when the asset sells, the value is built-in and they recoup everything.   
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