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   On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 15:39:57 +1200, Chance Platt wrote:   
   >   
   >   Re: Re: SID player for VICE   
   >   By: Andreas Kohlbach to Chance Platt on Thu Jun 09 2022 03:34 pm   
   >   
   >  > Was using it for a while now, and by chance just yesterday it crashed   
   >  > once.   
   >  >   
   >  > Just noticing if I start with a certain song it crashes every time. If I   
   >  > play a different song first and then the other it doesn't crash.   
   >  >   
   >  > One question (not to start a new thread). I set the VIC-II settings to   
   >  > PAL, as as an European I am used 50Hz. But some SIDS insist on playing   
   >  > in NTSC (60Hz). Cannot find if the VIC-II settings are ignored, or for   
   >  > what reason some songs "rush through", others not.   
   >   
   > I don't know what I'm doing to make mine crash, but it's worked for a good   
   > while for me in the last few minutes replying to your post. I really like the   
   > interface.   
      
   After further investigation those files crashing VSID play only if   
   another file is playing and you start the otherwise crashing file without   
   stopping the first.   
      
   One which I can reproduce crashing every time (but playing using the   
   method above) is Armalyte which I also have on my SID web page at   
   . If you find the time   
   please get this and see if it crashes your player too but plays when   
   already playing a different file without stopping it.   
      
   > The reason why some rush through and others not is that the original intent,   
   > which machine the song was developed on, is included in the file. So the   
   > players emulate the "correct" speed for each song individually.   
   >   
   > I've wanted for some years to go through my disks and copy down the SIDs I   
   had,   
   > the way I remember them. I'm from the US, so mine were all fixed for NTSC,   
   and   
   > the experience of them is different than the more accurate files people trade   
   > around.   
      
   Well on the Commodore 64 back in the day you usually could not   
   choose. You got an NTSC version in North America and a PAL version almost   
   elsewhere. So depending on where you were and what game you played, it   
   might slowed down or sped up with no way to control it other than   
   reprogram the program or replace the VIC-II chip.   
      
   > So, first, in the menus, Settings -> Settings, set the default model you want   
   > (PAL).   
   >   
   > Then, in Settings menu again, click "Override PSID settings". That will force   
   > the player to play with your default settings and ignore the values in the   
   PSID   
   > files.   
      
   That did it! Thanks so much.   
      
   The vicerc file now also has the line--   
      
   PSIDKeepEnv=1   
      
   which seems to do this.   
   --   
   Andreas   
      
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