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   -=> Clocky wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-   
      
    Cl> On 4/10/2020 2:32 am, Dennis Katsonis wrote:   
    > Subject: Two Commodore 64's that wont power on   
    >   
    > I have just received FOUR breadbin Commodore 64s. One is missing the   
    > mainboard, one turns on, but with a black screen, and two don't turn on   
    > at all (power LED does not light up).   
      
    Cl> Black screen is often a failed PLA. These can be replaced with modern   
    Cl> equivalents.   
      
    >   
    > When our lockdown ends, I'm going to get a multimeter, but I'm wondering   
    > if there is a common and obvious cause for this that I could look at   
    > before I get a multimeter (which may not be for weeks because our state   
    > premier likes to imprison us).   
    >   
    > I've looked at the fuses, one was broken, but putting the good fuse in   
    > both machines didn't work.   
    >   
    >   
      
    Cl> What supply are you using? If it's an original Commodore brick you   
    Cl> should test the voltages first as they commonly fail and when they do   
    Cl> they destroy the computer attached to it.   
      
    Cl> Better still get at least a power saver or better still a modern   
    Cl> replacement power supply.   
      
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   I'm using an original power supply, but it works fine on one other machine.    
   That doesn't rule it out, but it makes it less likely.   
      
   I did switch the PLA with another machine to no effect. I suspect it could be   
   RAM. Bad RAM I think can cause this. I do recall that one machine would   
   start, but only have 27 bytes free. So perhaps the last remining working ram   
   chip failed. With three boards, I should be able to get one working from   
   parts, but it won't be easy.   
      
      
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