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   Daniel to All   
   Re: C64 Refurb   
   05 May 20 08:57:11   
   
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   On 5/4/20 4:25 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
      
   I just happened to look at c.s.cbm when I saw this reply. Just so you   
   know, there is a one-way exchange between fidonet and this newsgroup so,   
   while I posted this on fidonet, your reply never made it to me. And   
   other than the reply-to address, BBS fidonet gateway information is   
   stripped from my original post so you have no way of knowing that the OP   
   comes from a BBS. I believe they used to have two-way communication I   
   figure they disabled it due to increased SPAM issues during usenet's   
   heyday. If I hadn't inadvertently clicked on this newsgroup (I generally   
   don't), I may not have seen your reply for a long time. I'm glad I did,   
   must've been a psychic thing.   
      
   > Daniel  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> I have yet to replace a chip on a board and so I ask this with respect to   
   best   
   >> practices of the restoration community. Is socketing the chip a recommended   
   >> thing to do?   
   >   
   > The advantage is that if the chip fails it's easy to replace, the   
   > disadvantage is that if the chip seems to have failed, the first   
   > suspect is that it's just a poor contact in the socket. So easier   
   > to fix but _possibly_ less reliable. More of a problem if the board   
   > is likely to be bumped around a lot. You'll have to decide for   
   > yourself what you prefer.   
      
   I'll probably do a socket if it comes down to replacing the chip.   
      
   > You might also consider installing heatsinks on some of the chips   
   > seeing as you're doing everything else.   
      
   Funny you mention that. The thought never occured to me in doing this   
   until I saw this earlier. I just forgot to mention it on my to-do-list   
      
   https://www.thefuturewas8bit.com/64-repair   
      
   > In theory the originals had protection built into their design, it   
   > just tends to fail because they run too hot so the regulator chip   
   > dies an early death. Poor quality capacitors can also fail early   
   > and cause excessive supply ripple, more so if also overheated.   
      
   If I buy a c64 PSU, it'll come from sites specific to the C64 or   
   retroware. Something like this:   
      
   https://commodore4ever.net/collections/power-supplies/products/commodore-64-vic   
   -20-power-supply-atom-retro   
      
   https://www.c64psu.com/c64psu/43-157-commodore-64-c64-psu-power-supply.html   
      
   > So if you're sure that the replacement power supply is well heat   
   > sinked and uses high quality genuine components, it might be   
   > over-kill to use a protection circuit. On the other hand if it's   
   > something that someone's cobbled together from cheap Chinese   
   > PSU modules bought off Ebay, then I'd suggest more caution.   
   >   
   > My design also indicates ripple and low 5VDC or 9VAC voltage:   
   > http://computernerdkev.heliohost.org/comiemon/comiemon.htm   
   > http://computernerdkev.heliohost.org/comiemon/relay.htm   
      
   Taking a look, thanks.   
      
   --   
   Daniel   
      
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