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   On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:24:18 +1300, Dave Drum wrote:   
   >   
   > -=> Tristan Miller wrote to Simon Geddes <=-   
   >   
   >  > and ambition to do the Vic as a low-cost computer for all. I'm not sure,   
   >  > but I feel this was partly motivated by a sense of public purpose.   
   >   
   >  TM> I haven't read The Home Computer Wars, but that's not at all the   
   >  TM> impression I got of Tramiel from reading Brian Bagnall's "On the Edge:   
   >  TM> The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore" (or whatever it happened to   
   >  TM> be called at the time -- the author seems to change the title of the   
   >  TM> book with every edition).  Anyways, from that book it was pretty clear   
   >  TM> that Tramiel was driven purely by profit and egotism, not any higher   
   >  TM> social purpose.  After reading the book (and watching the "Commodore   
   >  TM> Story" documentary) I came away with a much less favourable impression   
   >  TM> of Tramiel than I had had previously.   
   >   
   > Jack, who dumped CBM in favour of Atari (nee Tramiel Technology Ltd.)   
   > was just as much about money as Irving (Gould) and Medhi (Ali) who came   
   > after him at Commodore and busted it out for fun and (especially) profit.   
   >   
   > ... Amiga made it possible. Commodore made it dead.   
      
   Wasn't it Commodore offering a cash back of some sort in the early to mid   
   1980s? You would send in your existing non-Commodore computer and get a   
   discount of some $199 of a price of $249. Some people bought a brand new   
   Timex Sinclair 1000 for $99, sent it to Commodore to receive a Commodore 64.   
   To make some $50. That was a very aggressive marketing strategy by   
   Commodore. I only learned about this reading some 1980s BYTE magazines   
   as PDF which also contained to contemporary advertisements.   
   --   
   Andreas   
      
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