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   On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 22:17:55 +0000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:   
      
   > Andreas Kohlbach  wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:06:56 +1300, Simon Geddes wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> Jack gets a bad rapp for his "Jack attacks", and I'm not sure how well I   
   would   
   >>> have survived if I ever had to work under him. But reading "The Home   
   Computer   
   >>> Wars" the other day, it left me with a slightly different feeling - an   
   >>> admiration for the man's sheer determination to win in business, and his   
   belief   
   >>> in his own business "religion".   
   >>>   
   >>> Just wondering if there are any other closet Jack admirers, and whether   
   they   
   >>> can shed any more light on Jack's business religion?   
   >>   
   >> Well you have to admire him. Like you have to admire Bill Gates. Even if   
   >> you otherwise hate them for being pricks.   
   >   
   > From a customer's point of view I think you can admire Tramiel much   
   > more than Bill Gates. Tramiel used his ruthless business strategies   
   > to cut costs and therefore be able to profitably sell computers   
   > cheaper than anyone else - opening them up to some home markets that   
   > otherwise might have been priced out. Gates just did his best to   
   > prevent other players from getting a strong foothold in the PC OS   
   > market, so that he could get away with selling his software with   
   > very high profit margins. Steve Jobs as well just convinced a   
   > smaller market with more money to buy more expensive tech by making   
   > it shiny and fashionable.   
      
   I'm not a big fan of Microsoft, but one thing that they did do is bring   
   a common platform to million's of computers at a relatively low cost   
   compared to CP/M.  They also helped drive more hardware conformity to   
   systems which was a double-edge sword, but did allow programmers to get   
   more out of the hardware because they could address it directly rather   
   than through OS interfaces.   
      
   In many way's Tramiel did the same by creating relatively cheap   
   mass-market machines which allowed programmers to target stable platforms   
   for their software.   
      
   Lorry   
      
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