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   MSGID: 1:153/135 000447e6   
    yEnc decoder, and we'd   
   prefer they can access all postings even if you think the target shouldn't   
   be a real machine. Furthermore, the autobots that handle automatic posting   
   and processing all expect documents to be in uucode.   
      
    * Document! You don't need to tell us how to turn the computer on,   
   but please do tell us what we're looking at, and what we can expect when   
   we run it. We can probably guess the rest. Accuracy helps. :-)   
      
    A NOTE ON DOCUMENTATION: Some people believe that documentation   
   consists of a single sentence saying 'this is a program for the (64|128|+4)'.   
   We can see that already. Documentation is telling us what the program is   
   supposed to do and what it needs to run, and this information is vital!   
   Steve Judd writes particularly nice documentation. Look for some of this   
   previous posts, if your news spool goes back that far (!).   
    If you are sending an archive of programs, like a freeware   
   archive, please describe each program individually and completely as if   
   you had posted each one separately. A nice paragraph about the archive   
   itself will probably not suffice. :-)   
      
    * Post your post instead of mailing to us. The reason is not that   
   we care how the post arrives, but that most modern mailers fiddle around with   
   files and add metacharacters and 8-bit encoding and the like. Most news   
   programs don't. Therefore, a post arrives more cleanly in general than does   
   the mail.   
    IF YOU MUST MAIL, PLEASE see the section on 'How to post by Mail'.   
      
    * Above all, remember that your post must be readable by the lowest   
   common denominator. Usually, that's us.   
      
   1.7 Things you should *never* do   
      
    * Crosspost. Never ever crosspost. Announcements about your web site,   
   whether or not it will resurrect the 64 to millions of waiting fans   
   worldwide and usher in a new computing paradigm renaissance, are not binary   
   and therefore not germaine. Announcements about service offerings you may   
   be providing, or the software opus you're writing, are not binary and   
   therefore not germaine. (But if you have a demo, why not post that?)   
   Why am I picking on announcements? Announcements are, bar none, the single   
   most crossposted crud I can think of. STOP IT.   
    Moreover, it s a waste of time for you, because if I don't approve   
   the post, or any of the other moderators, it won't appear in any of the other   
   groups you've crossposted to either. And we're not going to strip the c.b.c   
   group and and repost it for you. It's not our job.   
    The problem is now of such an extent that c.b.c no longer accepts   
   crossposts, even if they *are* on-topic. Sorry. See section 2.1.1.   
      
    * Mass post or autopost. In the past six months or so I have had two   
   incidences of nearly several hundred megabytes of warez end up in my mailbox   
   with more on the way, to the point where I had to complain to the offender's   
   ISP to get them to stop before my server's mail spool got overrun.   
    Not only is this unspeakably rude and impossible to process in a   
   timely fashion, but it also can cause denial of service problems for   
   moderators' ISPs and systems. Do NOT load your programs into an autoposter   
   and let your program blast us on autopilot. Do NOT pack everything into a   
   gigantic archive and bolus us at 5 gigs a post. If we can't contact you to   
   turn it off, we *will* make sure you're disconnected one way or another.   
   Please don't forget there's a human being looking at every post you send,   
   and that not everyone's hard disk is as big as yours.   
      
    * Use a hopelessly munged address. We're a fairly astute bunch of   
   guys, and most mail munges are creative enough to be bot-foolers but still   
   humanly decipherable, and we have no problem with munging per se. (Heck, I   
   used to regularly munge mine.) However, we have received submissions from   
   "G@RT" (actual from address) that we needed more information on. Guess what,   
   bucko? Into the bit bucket. If we can't contact you about your post, we will   
   reject it.   
      
    * Bite your nails. Don't do it, it's a nasty habit and you look funny   
   gnawing on them like that.   
      
   2. Talking to c.b.c   
      
   2.1 How to post   
      
   2.1.1 The anti-spam bot   
      
   In days gone by, the c.b.c moderator job had become increasingly difficult   
   because of large amounts of spam to both the group and to the submission   
   addresses, as well as large and frequently lengthy and repeated crossposts   
   to groups where things should not be crossposted. This has meant many mod   
   mailbox overflows and many ruined keyboards bouncing on whatever delete   
   key is defined.   
      
   Seriously, it really has been a problem, and only because of the magnitude   
   have more drastic options been applied.   
      
   On August 1, 2005, this policy went into effect (which is also given in the   
   mini-FAQ). To successfully submit a formal submission or a question through   
   the request address, your post or E-mail:   
      
    - MUST HAVE: either the words 'commodore' or 'comp.binaries.cbm',   
    spelled correctly, in upper/lower case, in either your MESSAGE BODY,   
    MESSAGE SUBJECT, or both. No other headers will qualify. Odds are   
    your message contains these key terms already! If it doesn't, it   
    will be silently DELETED.   
      
   ** Simply having comp.binaries.cbm in the Newsgroups: header is not enough! **   
      
    - MUST -NOT- HAVE: newsgroups *other* than comp.binaries.cbm in the   
    Newsgroups: header, if one exists. If you crosspost, it will be   
    silently DELETED. (If you do not have a Newsgroups: header, then   
    the first rule applies.)   
      
   I'm sorry about the onerousness of the requirements, but they are a needed   
   measure to keep c.b.c running smoothly, and most legitimate submissions   
   should not be affected by this policy. Please note that messages that are   
   trapped by the anti-spam filter do not reach the moderator, so we will not   
   see them if your post fails any of these conditions.   
      
   2.1.2 How to post by newsreader (MOST preferred)   
      
   Simply point your newsreader to comp.binaries.cbm and post your document.   
   You should refer to your newsreader for the appropriate documentation. Make   
   sure it is uuencoded -- raw binaries never make it, and yEnc or MIME may be   
   eaten by our pre-processing bots.   
      
   What will happen is that your post will be sent by UUnet to the moderators,   
   who will then review it. This method is most preferred because mailreaders   
   screw around with mail they send, particularly MIME-enabled mailers. Most   
   newsreaders don't. See above for the rest of the process.   
      
   Please remember that your posts are pre-filtered! Read section 2.1.1.   
      
   2.1.3 How to post by mail   
      
   While we don't really encourage this, people do have trouble posting through   
   Usenet, especially if your only access is through Google Groups or the like.   
   If you really can't post by news, send your document to:   
      
   comp-binaries-cbm(at)floodgap.com   
      
   which is a mail alias maintained by Cameron Kaiser. If you use a   
   MIME-enabled mailer, DO NOT UUENCODE IT BECAUSE THE MAILER EATS IT! In this   
   case, and this case only, SEND IT AS AN ATTACHMENT. If the mailer is not   
   MIME-enabled, like mailx or many Elm versions, send uuencoded files as   
   usual.   
      
   | Even if you subscribe to Spiro's mailing list (1.1.4), you can't submit   
   | through it as posts do not enter the c.b.c moderation stream (and the   
   | list is configured to block posts except from administrators anyway). Use   
   | the submission address above instead.   
      
   As a point of clarity, if you intend to send your program as an attachment,   
   do NOT uuencode the program and send the *uucode* as the attachment. SEND   
   THE BINARY ITSELF! Also, try to give the attachment a semi-descriptive name.   
   We often strip out attachments in one big bunch, and a whole lot of similar   
   looking files makes it tough to match files with posts.   
      
   CompuServe seems to be problematic with uuencoded attachments. If you can   
   use 'NewMail', please do so. If you can't, please alert the moderators in   
   the message body that you're using CompuServe OldMail and we will try to   
   rescue the post. (Thanks to John Iannetta.)   
      
   Please remember that your posts are pre-filtered! Read section 2.1.1.   
      
   2.2 Contacts   
      
   As mentioned, it is better to mail the moderators collectively. Posting   
   will have the same effect as mailing, but it's better to mail because we   
   can differentiate between the two.   
      
   The alias   
      
   cbc-request+at+floodgap.com   
      
   will send to all members of the moderation team, including me.   
      
   If you wish to contact me personally regarding the FAQ or the large check   
   you'll send me or the attractive, unmarried sister you have, send mail to   
      
   ckaiser{at}floodgap.com   
      
   and I promise to ignore it for as long as I can, unless I really like your   
   sister or the check is good.   
      
   John Iannetta has promised me an attractive sister, but I think someone at   
   | Federal Express routed the crate to the Sultan of Brunei. Spiro Trikaliotis   
   | has not sent me one yet.   
      
   2.3 Troubleshooting   
      
   2.3.1 'My post was approved, but it hasn't appeared yet'   
      
   If you know that we approved your post, there are several reasons why it   
   hasn't appeared yet. The only reason under our control is that we simply   
   haven't injected it into the Usenet stream yet.   
      
   Normally, we post things as soon as we approve them, just to get them out of   
   our hair, so most of the time these reasons below apply. In such cases,   
   there's no one you can blame, unless you have contacts at WorldCom. Usenet   
   is a very haphazard mish   
      
      
      
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