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|    Stephen Walsh to All    |
|    Commodore Free Magazine, Issue 93 - Part    |
|    21 Sep 16 13:15:53    |
      t Jan Vorlicek, but       the idea is older. In that time on ftp.funet.fi there was available some       downloadable documentation for connecting MFM hard disk to C64, but this       technology was not modern at that time. This needed an external MFM       controller while IDE bus was at first sight very similar to C64 internal       bus. It looked that we would need only a few TTL gates, but it was more       complicated. We needed new technology for programming CPLD chips,       designing PCBs, PC for this and it took a lot of time.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Has the project made you rich, beyond your dreams?              TP: The most important thing is that I understood how the thing works and       that was very helpful for looking for my job. For example: to implement       IDE device to control system with 8-bit external bus was very simple       because I did it on IDE64. Or ETH64 controller or PCkeyb project were       designed practically at the same time as similar projects in my job. MP3       player was designed with my co-worker from the company when we did a stand       alone MP3 player and we used the experience from IDE64 project. Our newest       project CPU64 uses experience with FPGA designs from looms or driving       linear motors. In this context, I can say that IDE64 made me rich, because       gave me a lot of important experience and new friends.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: To your knowledge, was this the first ever IDE interface for the       Commodore 64, and would you say it's the best, and if so, why?              TP: Direct connection on the C64 expansion bus gave us the speed.       Embedded memory management and RAM/PEROM memory makes the user opertaion       easy. Short Bus makes C64 system more flexible. IDE64 does not switch the       IRQ off during I/O operation. Supports Hard Disk / CDROM / ZiP drive /       LS-120 (A-Drive) / Compact Flash. You can see that IDE64 is the FASTEST       device for a stock C64 that's currently available (based on public       measurement at Forever 4 party SK). The only real competitor at speed is       CMD RamLink. We know about users in 21 countries in the world included       včetnģ Australia, Japan, Greece and Canary Islands.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Was the interface an easy development for you, or did you come across       any large problems?              TP: It was many hours spent in public technical library, because in       1994-1996, the internet was unavailable for us and there was no information       useful for this project. We did not have any experience with designing and       producing circuit boards or programmable logic. First version IDE64 V1.1       which obtained first 15 users has a lot of restrictions which were removed       in later versions.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Do you plan a serial ATA interface for future developments?              TP: Maybe later. IDE64 users are now focused on Compact Flash.       Technically it should not be a problem to develop it, but it will take a       time.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: What hardware limitations does the device impose, for example could I       use any size of hard disk and a DVD reader?              TP: IDE64 supports Hard Disk / CDROM / ZiP drive / LS-120 (A-Drive) /       Compact Flash and others. DVD with ISO file system is supported. Multi       session is supported. Firmware V.8x has limit HDD 8GB, file size limited       by the capacity of HDD. IDEDOS v9.x developed by Soci/Kajtįr Zsolt has       it's own file system called CFS. It allows disks up to 128 GB to be used,       with files up to 4GB with holes and fast seeking, relative files up to       16MB, 16 partitions, unlimited directories and files (only limited by the       capacity of disk), customizable file types, and new file permissions.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: I am still looking for something that would allow me to create actual       CDs using a Commodore 64. Do you think this would be possible using your       hardware, assuming someone designs Commodore 64 disk burning software?              TP: We thought about this, but there will be probably be a problem with       C64 speed and we did not have enough information about ATA CD-ROM burning,       only one detailed datasheet of Yamaha CD ROM. With the experience with       compatibility of CDROM, we left this problem. Maybe the compatibility is       better now, but this project can take a lot of time (CD disks during       developing and debugging software) and you can burn CD faster on PC anyway.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: How would someone start designing such projects as the IDE64?              TP: It is important to know, that if you have a real job or you are       studying at school, that this kind of project can take up to 6 months or       even more. It is a life cycle, and can not be done faster. It is also       important to not lose motivation after a lot of hours spent on project       without any results. Psychological support from other C64 users is also       very important.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Can you tell us how fast the IDE64 interface is compared to other disk       interfaces for the c64?              TP: To load a file which is 200 blocks length takes (on standard C64       floppy 1541) more than 2 minutes, with common speeder it drops to about 30       seconds while from the IDE64 hard disk or CF it's only only 1 second !       Detailed comparisons can be found on our webpage ~       www.volny.cz/dundera/compar.html               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: The IDE64 interface has some form of 1541 disk turbo, can you give       details on this and what sort of speed increase could we see over a       standard 1541 disk drive?              TP: IDE64 V.8x has speeder factor 6:1 compared to standard, IDE V9.x has       up to 9:1 on 1581 disk drive.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Does the 1541 disk turbo work on any other devices?              TP: Yes, the most recent firmware (V.9x) supports 1541 and 1581 disk       drives.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: One of the biggest problems I faced was formatting my disk, not a       complex task but it took nearly 1 full day, why does it take so long to       format a new disk?              TP: It was caused probably by formatting 'all data sectors', which is not       necessary. This is optional and it is usually used only when you have a       disk with bad sectors. On a normal disk it is recommended to skip this       optional part and formatting should take only few minutes.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: What do you hate about the industry?              TP: Usually when I finally finish the project, it is out of date.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Do you Commodore machines as your main computer?              TP: For my whole high school the c64 was my main computer and it was very       useful. I have used it for computing and printing out homework. After       high school I got my first PC, because I needed a computer for developing       my c64.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: What other Computer systems do you own?              TP: Six C64's, one C128 and two PCs.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Are any plans underway to have the hardware work with GEOS as I       believe the hardware already works with Wheels?              TP: IDE64 works with Wheels, Contiki (v1.2), LUnix (v0.21) and with GEOS.       GEOS drivers for IDE64 were created by Maciej Witkowiak (Ytm/Elysium) from       Poland. Look at              members.elysium.pl/ytm/html/ciaide.html              you will need a separate hard disk drive specifically for GEOS as it       formats differently to the normal IDE64 standard. In the future, there       will be GEOS partition support.               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Whose idea was it to make the plug-in applications for the interface?       They seem to function well, adding to the hardware design.              TP: We developed simple plug-in application interface, because we do not       have enough place in PEROM memory for all applications which we wanted to       implement. Basic mechanism is implemented in manager and supported @#$               - - - - - - - - - -              CF: Could you describe how the plug-ins work?              TP: After starting manager, config file which contains file extensions and       associations is loaded to external memory. When you press ENTER in manager       on any file, extension is checked and linked file is loaded to memory.       Plugin is started with filename pointer set on actual filename selected in       manager and              --- MBSE BBS v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux-i386)        * Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- (3:633/280)    |
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