Op 25-Jan-16 om 2:09 schreef Your Name:   
      
   > Also, the Apple II loads at least some part of the system software from   
   > the disk, whereas the C64 could be booted and used without anything   
   > extra. I don't know about the Atari 400 / 800 - I never bothered with   
   > them since they were crap, although nowhere near as useless as   
   > Sinclair's garbage toys.   
      
   As luck would have it I've just repaired a Apple II clone (I'm a   
   Commodore guy, but this was a fun exercise). The Apple II doesn't   
   require a disk; it has BASIC in ROM. That might not be obvious for the   
   uninitiated because it starts up in the machine language monitor, with   
   Ctrl+B followed by Return you go to the BASIC prompt.   
      
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